Gruss, With all due respect, calm down. You may want to consider the possibility that very little in this world is truly black and white.
Anything that has required years to build and that has endured for decades can't be summarily scoffed and invalidated. It's kind of caveman-like to point and go "Unions BAD!" If that were the case then they would be torn down one way or the other, or perhaps reformed. Even if something appears to be against all personal reason in and of itself, it may very well hold one or two important principles that, if fully considered, might solve flaws in systems we hold dear. Just as a point for discussion, what if just one or two of the principles of Socialism had been taken into account when laws and regulations were being formed regarding corporate governance? Could we have better controlled by design the system that enabled the Enron, WorldCom, and Tyco fiascos? It's a good possibility, and I don't hold sway with Socialism one bit, but it's advanced citizenship to give *full* consideration to opposing views, and not just patient listening until it's your turn to rant. In my opinion, no one system is correct. Not one, of any kind, anywhere. Every true success for the good of all that I've ever seen has come from a well-considered mixture of opposing ideas -- a dynamic tension, if you will -- and not from any one single idea or system. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -----Original Message----- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:46 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Anyone Bummed About The GM Settlement? > Adam wrote: > The corporate incentive is profit, The human incentive is profit! Corporations are just a legal entity created to organize that pursuit. If a human can get full pay for doing no work, they will. Unions are entities today who's sole purpose is to enable that. Unions were useful in the past because it was easy for a company to be the only game in town, thus creating an opportunity for corruption. As the US moved from an agrarian economy to an industrial one farm pay dropped off the map and the major replacement was factory/corporate work. Your average worker had little communication and little travel opportunity. He had no idea what jobs were 100 miles away much less 1000 and travel was prohibitively expensive. Unions helped ensure that those workers weren't taken advantage of. None of that is true today. You can pick up a telecommuting gig in Eastern Europe and Japan and work them both. Unions are, therefore, relics. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:243283 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
