I don't believe that I ever said I want this to be a Christian nation. I 
said that I wonder what happened to the Christian principals that this 
country was founded on.

My simple point is if you are raised with and live by certain values and 
principals, and those values and principals are based on your religious 
foundation, then that religious foundation will guide your way of 
thinking and living. So if this is true, and many (never said all, only 
many) of the founders of this country lived by some sort of religious 
principal, then when they were figuring out how to run this country 
those principals had to have something to do with their thinking.

I agree that religion should not be injected into the government, just 
as the government should not interfere with religion.
I know that the word God is nowhere to be found in the constitution.
I know that the only references to religion are basically that people 
have the right to practice their religion of choice without fear of 
persecution
I am all for the separation of church and state.

So basically I am agreeing with a lot of what you all are saying. What I 
am seeing happen is that words are being put in my mouth. Again, I never 
said that this was a Christian nation. I never said that I want this to 
be a Christian nation. I never said that the word God or any other 
reference to religion were in the constitution other than what I typed 
above. What happened is by me making one simple statement, everyone got 
their panties in a wad and started to assume what I meant. Now in all 
fairness, I may not be wording this the way that it is going around in 
my head. This may be a case of I know what I am thinking, I just cannot 
get it out in the right manner to convey these thoughts properly.

And yes, I am a patriot. I love this country, I have fought for this 
country and I will continue to do so. I would however have a very big 
problem going to war because someone thought that it would be a neat 
idea to turn this into a Christian nation. That is not what I want.


Larry Lyons wrote:
> You can believe what you want. However belief simply does not change the 
> historical facts. In other words opinions are not facts no matter what you 
> may wish.
>
> The writings of the various signers of the constitution were very much 
> against injecting religion into the government. Madison went so far as to 
> propose that no government support ever should be given to religious group. 
> Adams, Madison and Mason all wrote quite a lot against such issues as 
> exempting churches from taxation, having a chaplin for the house or senate or 
> any religious instruction in state sponsored education.
>
> I've gathered from your various posts that you consider yourself a patiot. 
> Given what others and myself have shown you regarding the attitude of the 
> founders (i.e., original intent), by wanting this country to be a "Christian" 
> nation, aren't you being somewhat unpatriotic?
>
>   
>

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