OK, You got me on that one. I should  have done a better job of 
proofreading my knee-jerk responses. My apologies. I seriously do not 
believe that this is or should be a Christian nation. I am not 
backpedaling btw. I am apologizing for saying something I did not mean. 
The Christian principals though, I do believe for the reasons that I 
stated earlier.
Yes, it does sound like you and I are on the same page.

Bruce



Judah McAuley wrote:
> Bruce Sorge wrote:
> <snips>
>   
>> So basically I am agreeing with a lot of what you all are saying. What I 
>> am seeing happen is that words are being put in my mouth. Again, I never 
>> said that this was a Christian nation. I never said that I want this to 
>> be a Christian nation. I never said that the word God or any other 
>> reference to religion were in the constitution other than what I typed 
>> above. What happened is by me making one simple statement, everyone got 
>> their panties in a wad and started to assume what I meant. Now in all 
>> fairness, I may not be wording this the way that it is going around in 
>> my head. This may be a case of I know what I am thinking, I just cannot 
>> get it out in the right manner to convey these thoughts properly.
>>     
>
> For what its worth, Bruce, here is what you said and I first replied to:
>
> ***
> Also,
> What ever happened to to the fact that this great nation was founded as
> a Christian nation or the fact that the Constitution was founded on
> Christian principals? When did we lose sight of this?
> ***
>
> I objected to the characterization of the United States being founded as 
> a Christian nation. I agree completely that many of the founders were 
> christian and many of the ideals that the country was founded with are 
> ideals that christianity espouses. I don't know that it exactly makes 
> them Christian ideals, but I have no problems at all when christians 
> espouse and work for ideals like liberty, happiness, equality and 
> justice. I heartily welcome it in fact.
>
> It sounds like we are on much the same page. People who aren't christian 
> just get a bit antsy when ideals which are shared by lots of people are 
> coopted and labeled as Christian. I don't think you did it on purpose, 
> but its one of those things that is quite common in our society and 
> makes non-christians a bit nervous.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> 

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