Michael, Larry, etc.:

honestly, what I think started this "dilution" of leadership in American
politics was the Gary Hart presidential campaign.

Until that time, there was apparently an agreement among journalists to keep
candidates' personal lives and quirks private, unless it were something
egregious that might affect their fitness to hold office. So you had a lot
of good, human, and decidedly imperfect people willing to campaign.

Well, Hart threw down the gauntlet, and challenged the press to follow him,
said it would be "dull". So they followed him, and it was anything but dull.

Since then, it seems to be "anything goes" in terms of the press digging for
dirt on candidates and office-holders. So anyone with either something to
keep buried, or any desire for a "private" life, would probably not run at
all.

What do we get, then? The kind of politicians we've got, on *both* sides of
the aisle.
Sad, isn't it?

Gee, where is Jimmy Stewart when we need him?

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Trent Lott, certifiable looney
> 
> 
> No it's not and it was wrong then.  I don't like Trent Lott.  
> I think he was a bad leader and bad for the Republican party. 
>  If we were having this same discussion a year ago, I would 
> be saying the same thing except about Lott and not Daschle.  
> I think that the political leadership on both sides are a 
> bunch of self-indulgent children.  They lack principles.  
> They lack morals.  They lack honesty and integrity.  I'm 
> praying for the day when all of these guys are seen for what 
> they are and get booted.
> 
> My criticisms of Daschle are not, by default, an endorsement 
> of Lott.  Therefore, not hypocritical in and of itself.
> 
> Michael Corrigan
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Larry Lyons 
>   To: CF-Community 
>   Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:22 PM
>   Subject: RE: Trent Lott, certifiable looney
> 
> 
>   Is that any different from what Trent Lott did when he was 
> in charge of the
>   Senate? If you look at the actual numbers to date, the 
> current senate has
>   confirmed 39 of the republican judicial nominees. In 
> contrast at this point
>   in the Clinton administration the republican senate had 
> only confirmed less
>   than 30. 
> 
>   I guess that obstruction in the appointments process is ok 
> when a republican
>   does it, but not when a democratic party leader appears to 
> do something
>   similar. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
> 
>   larry
> 
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> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:10 PM
>   > To: CF-Community
>   > Subject: Re: Trent Lott, certifiable looney
>   > 
>   > 
>   > I suppose you like the fact that Daschle wont allow judges to 
>   > be voted on in the Senate?  What about bills that HE doesn't 
>   > want to pass? They don't even get a debate on the floor?  You 
>   > think that's ok?  You've really got your priorities in the 
>   > wrong place.
>   > 
>   > Michael Corrigan
>   > Programmer
>   > Endora Digital Solutions
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>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Howie Hamlin 
>   >   To: CF-Community 
>   >   Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:56 AM
>   >   Subject: Trent Lott, certifiable looney
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:52 p.m. EST
>   > 
>   >   Lott Blames Lewinsky Affair for 9-11 Vulnerability
>   > 
>   >   Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., suggested 
>   > Sunday that ex-President Clinton didn't do enough to counter 
>   > the terrorist
>   >   threat against the U.S. because he was too busy having sex 
>   > with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
>   > 
>   >   Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Lott made the connection 
>   > while complaining about a campaign ad run by North Carolina Senate
>   >   candidate Erskine Bowles, who was Clinton's chief of staff 
>   > during the Lewinsky affair. The ad features Bowles and Lott 
>   > side by side,
>   >   smiling at each other.
>   > 
>   >   "It's very curious to me. Here he is - the former chief of 
>   > staff to President Bill Clinton. [The ad] doesn't show 
> him with Bill
>   >   Clinton. It shows him with the [then] Republican Majority 
>   > Leader of the Senate."
>   > 
>   >   Lott continued:
>   >   "My question would be, you know, as chief of staff to 
>   > President Clinton, where was he when Monica Lewinsky was in 
>   > the Oval Office?
>   >   Where was he when they should have been doing more on the 
>   > war on terrorism?"
>   >   Lott is the highest elected official to publicly draw a 
>   > link between Clinton's preoccupation with seeking sex from 
>   > underlings and
>   >   his failure to pay more attention to national security concerns.
>   > 
>   >   Former senior Clinton adviser Dick Morris has contended 
>   > that Clinton met with Lewinsky more often than he did 
> with his own CIA
>   >   director.
>   >   In September, Morris told NewsMax.com that the Lewinsky 
>   > affair rendered the ex-president unwilling to take the kind 
>   > of political
>   >   risk that any serious effort to eliminate Osama bin Laden 
>   > would have entailed.
>   > 
>   >   "My sense is that the affair made him passive and 
>   > risk-averse," Morris said just weeks after the 9-11 attacks.
>   >   "As a result, I think he was less inclined to interfere 
>   > with the military or to order long-term involvement."
>   > 
>   >   Lott stressed to "Fox News Sunday" that, instead of backing 
>   > Bowles, he enthusiatically supports his opponent, 
> Republican Elizabeth
>   >   Dole.
>   > 
>   >   
>   > 
>   
> 
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