1) It is irrelevant as to whether Saddam has bombs or not. The point is, if he gets them, he will use them. If has them and hasn't used them, it's only fear of the US that has kept him from using them.
2) What is wrong with taking an aggressive stance? 3) Barry Goldwater would have made a great president. 4) If Saddam uses nukes, he should get nuked back. That is the only thing that will stop him from doing it again. H. -----Original Message----- From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nukes Since you asked for my opinion, I suppose Saddam does not have nuclear weapons unless I am presented with evidence he does. I also suppose going around saying "We are considering nuking you" to be a VERY aggressive statement considering the power of these weapons. I also consider people and administrations who need to resort to such tactics to fight battles simple and unenlightened, and would not want these people sitting with their finger on the button. The example of Barry Goldwater comes to mind. Were a country to start using nuclear weapons to achieve political advantages, I am fairly certain the international community would move to eliminate that country from the map in short order. I cannot imagine Saddam would have an opportunity to get off more than one attack, considering the US has enough conventional firepower which can be deployed via long range bomber to squash the Iraqi army 50 times over. Nuking Iraq, as much as it would appeal to some people, would definitely fit into the category of 'overkill'. M -----Original Message----- From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Nukes Scenario: Saddam has begun to launch nuclear weapons at Israel. Next, Kuwait. Then Saudi Arabia. Next, France, Spain, Germany, Russia. The only reason he doesn't hit us is because he lacks the delivery device to do so. What do you suppose that we do? Understand this; I am not saying that we should only retaliate with nuclear weapons. My only agreement with the administration is to have that as one of many options available to him. I don't think that it should be eliminated as an option all together. But if all of the other options fail, then what? Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: Haggerty, Michael A. To: CF-Community Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Nukes One account of the effects of a nuclear blast - "Nuclear explosions produce both immediate and delayed destructive effects. Immediate effects (blast, thermal radiation, prompt ionizing radiation) are produced and cause significant destruction within seconds or minutes of a nuclear detonation. The delayed effects (radioactive fallout and other possible environmental effects) inflict damage over an extended period ranging from hours to centuries, and can cause adverse effects in locations very distant from the site of the detonation." This goes beyond raising the stakes. This affects innocent women, children, the elderly, and other non-combatants who (in many cases) have no say in the actions of either their government or the organizations we stand against. The air would become fire, the land would be poisoned for thousands of years, and generations would be lost forever. There is no way this could be considered a just action. We are a better nation than that. I say, if we are going to drop the bomb, let it be da bomb, that is, George Clinton. He would funkatize those mothers into submission and again make the world safe for democracy. M -----Original Message----- From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Nukes Well, I guess I think that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. It worked out really well for us 6 months ago. You call it poking the ant hill, I call it bringing to bear the international attention that these assholes need. Personally, I'm tired of pussy-footing around these guys. We've been doing it for years and it has accomplished nothing. You think Apartheid would have ended if it were not for the huge International pressure put on them? It's the same principle. We've tried sanctions. Failed. We've tried diplomacy. Failed. Now it's time to raise the stakes. Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd To: CF-Community Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Nukes > Your reactions seem very short sighted. The US will not use nuclear weapons in an unprovoked, offensive manner. If a foreign enemy launches or detonates a nuclear device/weapon in New York, London, Moscow, Paris, etc. the President reserves the right to use nuclear weapons as one of many options in response. If Saddam drops a Nuke on Israel and gives signs that it will do it again, what then? We keep letting him? You think Tony Blair will stand by if London is attacked and hope that it won't happen again. I think that Truman's decision was the correct one and if given the same scenario (drop the bomb and the war/violence will end, or risk losing countless other innocent lives) I think the President should use the same decision making process. I don't care if it's Bush, Clinton, > Reagan, or Carter; I feel sorry for the man that has to make that decision. This man seems to enjoy poking at the ant hill to see what kind of reaction he will get. He is a lousy politician. Now, I know that we aren't on the best terms with some countrys, but publicly calling them things like an Axis of Evil (tm) sure as heck doesn't help smooth those relations. I'm just amazed at the assinine stuff that comes out of his mouth some times. Todd > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > Lombard, IL 60148 > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > 630/627-5255 Fax > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Haggerty, Michael A. > To: CF-Community > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:06 AM > Subject: RE: Nukes > > > This just seems so irresponsible. For us to publicly go around picking > fights with other countries AND backing up our words with the threat of > nuclear war is just bad politics. Imagine if China did that with us over > Taiwan. ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
