On Nov 9, 2007 10:10 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most people are stuck in the conventional / stage 4 level of moral
> development, cannot handle abstractions, and reference an authority for
> their morality. (For a more detailed explanation see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development).
>
> Accordingly they cannot see those who do not reference an authority for
> their morality as moral persons. Hence the reactions of many who hold
> fundimentalist beliefs that agnostics or atheists are immoral. (i.e., if
> you don't believe in god then what's stopping you from stealing raping and
> killing).


Yep, exactly the mentality I was suggesting.


>
>
> I did some research some years ago that showed there was a relationship
> between moral development and intelligence as measured by IQ tests. In the
> studies I analyzed there were very few people of normal intelligence (IQ's
> 85 -115) in the stage 5 or 6 categories of moral development, with the
> preponderance in the conventional states of moral reasoning, stages 3 and 4.
>

Very interesting.

-- 
And all this could be
Just a dream so it seems
I was never much good at goodbye


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