no, there is a difference.  That's why I'll hang out with religious
people, but don't really care to associate with child molesters.  That
said, I still feel that religion in general is a blight on humanities
forward movement.

And while I don't see any proselytizing going on, the reason I see the
attacks going on is because in essence the minority (we non-believing
heathens) aren't really represented.  The number of religious people
in this nation far outnumbers the non-religious.  So when one of us
complains about the word "god" in the pledge, it's seen as an attack
on religion, when to us, it's merely trying to set things "right" and
in our minds, back to the original spirit of the pledge.

Is it bad 100%, no, most everything has it's plusses and minuses.  I
happen to believe the minuses outweigh the plusses at this point.



On 12/7/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> there is a difference. And spare me the jokes about how it isn't. There is
> and you know it. Or are you really saying that exposure to religion is
> traumatic and soul-scarring 100% of the time?
>
> On 12/7/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > you don't see anyone proselytizing child molestors, but you still see
> > all of us attacking them too.  :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I've never seen anyone proselytize for a religion on this list
> > > >
> > > > Really? I guess we're not reading the same list then :)
> > > >
> > > > I'm seeing a lot of Christian proselytizing here...
> > >
> > > I'd have to wonder what you're seeing... unless it's the use of
> > > capitalization that I and others use, most of the traffic that I see
> > > here is debating and in some cases defending or defining.  It is most
> > > definitely NOT proselytizing!  That would require an actual attempt to
> > > convert, and I've NEVER seen that here.
> > >
> > > Hatton
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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