> Beth- > > My wife complained that the Berkeley curriculum downgraded you if your > project ideas had any relevance whatsoever to the real world :-) > > She did all pencil-on-paper drafting in those days (graduated in 1977). > Interesting, her first love was art. When the kids came along, she switched > to a home-office doing residential remodels, expansion, some new > construction. Fortunately, this was in the days before hyper-litigious > clients. When the kids got to high school, she wanted to go back to an > outside job but was virtually unemployable from not knowing CAD. Was > actually taking an adult-ed AutoCAD class through the school district, when > she found a company willing to train her on the computer because they saw > the value of her design experience.
I graduated from Temple in 1992, and we had NO DRAFTING requirements at all. You could take a cad class if you wanted but you could get through all four years with NO REAL DRAFTING AT ALL. I basically had no idea how to draft except what I learned in high school in some technical drawing class. For a thesis project i designed the gates of hell. Was fun. But you don't need to worry about services in hell. > > I went through the business school at Berkeley, which also had little > real-world relevance (except for Accounting). Ended up getting recruited > directly out of college by Ross Perot's firm EDS. (Unlike Bugs, I *did* take > that left turn at Albuquerque!) > > -Ben > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:51 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Muffins vs. Muffins > > > > > > I worked in the field for 6 months, drafting window details > > in some big > > firm. i had no knowledge how to draft (you don't learn that > > in school) and > > it was nothing like what i did in school, which was > > challenging, creative > > and interesting. > > > > I quit and went back to grad school to become an art teacher. > > > > That summer i had a temp job at a computer consulting firm. > > They had the > > 1.0 beta of access. And Lotus Notes. I was the receptionist > > and i answered > > the phone and read the manuals and made an employee database > > in notes. The > > computer geeks were so impressed they talked me into changing > > my profession. > > > > I am glad i did, I would hate doing "production" work. > > Although I would > > have liked to go to Berkely. > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) > > Anchorage, Alaska > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:36 AM > > Subject: RE: Muffins vs. Muffins > > > > > > > Beth- > > > > > > Architecture studio? > > > Did you ever go into the arch profession? > > > > > > my wife has an architecture degree from U.C. Berkeley. > > > we got married while she was still in school. > > > she spent so much time at the College of Environmental > > Design building, > > > Wurster Hall, hunched over her drafting table, that I joked > > I married her > > > "for better or for Wurster" <groan>. > > > > > > she's now working for a firm in suburban S.F. area, doing > > "production" > > > housing (read: subdivisions). > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:10 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Muffins vs. Muffins > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember in college doing an all nighter in architecture > > > > studio and the > > > > moron guys i was there with asked me if having a tampon in > > > > didn't feel the > > > > same as getting laid. I felt VERY sorry for their girlfriends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop > > > > Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike > > > > Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) > > > > Anchorage, Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 13 March 2002 12:37 > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Muffins vs. Muffins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of a funny story...of course I could be > > > > totally off base > > > > > > > > > > with my muffin slang too :) > > > > > > > > > > You know there was this guy I knew a few years back, real > > > > good with the > > > > > ladies, good looking and all that. Well we were sitting > > > > around talking > > > > > about...stuff, and the topic of the *cough* I'm not saying > > > > it, but the > > > > > word starts with a c and has an li between a t. Anyway, he said > > > > > something to the effect of "What's that?". > > > > > Well, I was quite befuddled, here's this guy who gets all > > > > the girls, but > > > > > > > > > > doesn't know very much about them (pity the girls...). I > > > > was like, "If > > > > > you don't know I'm not telling you!" No one else wanted to > > > > say either... > > > > > > > > > > He bugged us about it for months, and I never told him, > > even to this > > > > > day. He probably figured it out by now though :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will Swain wrote: > > > > > > "Of course there are a couple of different meanings > > for the word > > > > > > muffin. :)" > > > > > > > > > > > > really? what are they, cos I only know the one...... > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: 13 March 2002 11:02 > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Muffins vs. Muffins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So. I belong to another Community-type list at > > > > cfdeveloper.co.uk. Some > > > > > > > > > > > of those members are here, but not many. > > > > > > > > > > > > They are always talking about muffins over there and/or > > > > the lack of > > > > > > them. So I told them they were subscribed to the wrong > > > > list, that they > > > > > > > > > > > could get muffins over here, in my innocent American way. > > > > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh such fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
