> How so? > > Even if He does have a purpose for you, and is watching you, can't you > always choose to tell him to take his purpose and shove it?
And wouldn't that, from a believer's point of view, *also* be included in the preordained? Here's the thing: the basic assumption is that '[deity] knows all.' Does it not follow, then, that any choice you make, is already known? If so, how then can it still be considered a choice? [Deity] already knows what the choice will be and all the choices/consequences, etc. that follow. Therefore, no free will. > Unless you believe that God is actively meddling in your life, causing you > do to things or not to do things, etc.....then free will is still very much > intact. I don't believe that [deity] is actively meddling in my life as i don't believe in [deity]. Free will isn't a problem for me to get my head around, or to exercise on a daily basis. I just don't see how one can claim to believe in an all-knowing/seeing deity and still claim to have free will. You honestly don't see the contradiction in your statements? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:249607 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
