On Jan 30, 2008 2:14 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Problem is this - EVERYONE does this.  Some base their ideologies on
> their religious beliefs while others have fallen in with the cults of
> Global Warming, Environmentalism, Socialism, Humanism or any other
> ism, ology or anity that is out there.


Yes, and I find the ones who base their ideologies on their religious
beliefs, to be the most dangerous. Not all of them, not even most of them,
but some of them.....and when those some are given a legitimate voice,
that's dangerous.

Do you mean like Roe -v- Wade, Campaign Finance Reform, NAFTA or
> potentially the amendments regarding Presidential term limits,
> Prohibition, Women's Suffrage, Equal Rights?  Those fundamental
> principles?


No. I mean my fundamental freedom from your God.

The issue I have with you calling me "mostly harmless" is this - In
> this country, the governed have the right work to push their desires
> upon the government.  Why are your desires (or the desires of any
> group) any more or less important than mine (or the desires of any
> other group)?


This may sound bad but....truthfully, they are more important only because
they are mine. The people driven by their religious ideologies have the
ideas that seem to be the most at odds with what *I*, Brian Grant, feel is
important.

That's why they are the most dangerous, in my opinion, because what they
want scares me the most.


I'm not trying to be trite here...


Me either!


> we are a
> representative republic and unless the rules have changed the majority
> does actually control the course of action.  Statistically, 76% of the
> American populace claims some form of Christianity or Catholicism as
> their belief structure.  These structures guide ideologies and
> ideologies guide desire.


Not sure why you separated Christianity and Catholicism but.....yes, this
nation is predominately Christian.  This nation has a lot of doctors in it
too...and dentists....and plumbers....and janitors....and dancers....and
poets....and on and on. There are an infinite number of factors that help
make up what a person is, and what they believe.

Their religion is just one of those guiding principles. To a zealot, it is
THE guiding principle, and it rises above all else. It seems to consume
them, to wholly define them, and it tends to drive every one of their
actions. Usually, it drives them to promote ideas that I find counter to the
freedoms on which this nation was founded. And that makes them dangerous.

(This is a great discussion, and I hope you respond as to where you think I
might be going wrong here....)

-- 
And what they found was just the statue
Standing where the statue got me high


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