On 2/6/08, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see (and even agree with) your point... but let's also remember that
> "natural" remedies have those same side effects and issues.  Just because
> you can't sue nature doesn't mean that it's any less dangerous. ;^)

I understand that there can be side effects with some treatments, but
they are few and far between. And you know that too.


> I'm also not sure how the billion dollar pharmaceutical industry is any
> better than the billion dollar supplement industry. ;^)

Perhaps, but you know good and damn well, one is a bit better than the
other in terms of "healthy, organic, natural, etc"


> I just don't see much difference.  Nothing is truly synthetic, everything is
> "natural".  It's just that in this country at least pharmaceuticals are held
> to a high standard where supplements are held to almost none.  That scares
> the crap out of me.
>
> Both industries are cash-printing monsters.  Neither are worth any trust to
> me, but only one has any real regulation.

Regulation that is tied to money. And that scares the crap out of me.
Look at Chantrix! FDA approved!?!? Sure it was, and then all of
suddent the dangers of taking it crawl out of the woodwork. Taking
cinnamon supplements to help blood sugar levels never killed anyone
.... eating ginger to help with a bad stomach never made someone
suicidal.


> It's never a good sign when something needs redefinition to remain relevant
> - it's too like special pleading and that's a huge red flag to me.  All I
> can think of is that old piece of transcendent wisdom: "you can't polish a
> turd".  ;^)

Sometimes, just sometimes, it's called Progress Jim. And if that turd
was hardened, then shellacked in Polyurethene, you could indeed polish
it. :P


Bottom line: I'm not trying to change your mind, and you certainly
won't change mine. I basically just went into a vent, as I am sure you
did. However, we should all be open to learning new things, no matter
how biased we are against current methods or beliefs.

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