I'm sure it's disturbing, I don't know anything about WW2 war crime convictions, I will however say this. Would you rather we just line them up and kill them? I mean, thats pretty psychologically damaging while your waiting for your turn neh?
I can admit that I have no problem with psychological torture, and have a problem with physical torture. Also I not only said what I think is Acceptable, but also what is acceptable under the rules of land warfare. So not JUST an opinion but also statutory fact to back it up. Todd wrote: > I will include another of your comments in my response to your first. > >>> I'm using MY definition of what I think is acceptable treatment for an > enemy combatant. One that has NO rights under the rules of land warfare > and could be summarily executed at any time as a spy or a saboteur. > > Just because you think it is 'acceptable treatment' does not mean the act > itself is no longer torture. If you think it is acceptable to torture > people for whatever reason, fine, just say that. > > Psychological torture is sometimes worse than physical. Not to be crude, > but if someone were to dunk your head in a toilet until you almost, or did > pass out, and you weren't sure whether each time would be your last on this > earth, I think you would probably start to feel pretty tortured. It has to > be a horrifying experience. Suffocation has to be one of the worst ways to > die. > > I also find it interesting how the U.S. convicted a Japanese officer after > WWII of war crimes for waterboarding and sentenced him to 15 years hard > labor, but now it's AOK when it is useful for 'us'. > > I am still trying to find something I read about what actually happens > during waterboarding. It was pretty disturbing. I am pretty sure it was > even posted to this list. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... > > >> Do you have an actual argument or just a "feeling"? >> >> Todd wrote: >>> I call bullshit on this. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... >>> >>> >>>> Water boarding is not torture. >>>> >>>> Cutting off fingers, electrocution, burning, beating, kicking, these are >>>> torture. >>>> >>>> Or to expand on the argument, while PHYSICAL torture is and should be >>>> banned, psychological torture isn't and shouldn't be. >>>> >>>> I mean the cops can use a lot of methods that are construed as >>>> psychological torture, but we'll prohibit our soldiers from doing so? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:254212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
