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From: "Stephenie Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: Conversations...


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> Stephenie Hamilton
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Conversations...
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>
> Is anyone else following the Hal Helm's, Steve Nelson
> conversations series?
> I think the series is really awesome, but I have to disagree with
> a certain
> point they are trying to make. Here's a snippet:
>
> ---
> Steve: So, to be a really good programmer, you have to use both
> halves of
> your brain.
>
> Hal: I think so, yes. The fellow teaching the class, Roy
> Williams, said that
> while we all have preferences in the way we approach things, we
> can train
> ourselves to use the other half of our brain. I found that
> fascinating. We
> did some exercises where we picked a topic and wrote about it
> using
> left-brained techniques in one pass and then approached it again
> using
> right-brained techniques. The more we went into this, the more
> parallels I
> saw with programming. Fusedocs are how we make the transition
> from the
> holistic, big-picture, right-brained stuff to the logical,
> left-brained
> thinking that programming requires. And it's not as if some
> people have what
> it takes and others don't. We are born with a whole brain and we
> get to
> choose how to use it.
> ---
>
> I'm seriously left brained so I may be biased, but I don't think
> you have to
> use both sides to be a good programmer. You need both sides to be
> an good
> project manager. Good PM's are very hard to find, that's why they
> are so
> well paid, and I don't disagree with that. A good PM is gold.
> However, the
> whole Fusebox hybrid pm/programmer model they are pushing seems a
> little
> unrealistic. I'm not going to implement Fusebox without being
> given it as a
> requirement...by a PM, or client. That's just my left brain way
> of thinking,
> I think my personal methodology is better (probably not true, but
> I'm still
> not changing... ). If the pre-existing code has a methodology,
> I'll stick to
> it, and I'm not going to change it.
>
> What's more, I think that the hybrid pm/programmer model is _not_
> a good
> thing for the majority of programmers to try and follow. When my
> pm comes to
> me with a project, I demand requirements, not some really cool
> idea that a
> client baked up, and ran to the phone and called us about. When
> that
> happens, I just write up every possible requirement in an email
> and shoot it
> back to my pm, and we can decide what is realistic (and how much
> to quote)
> at that point, after conversations with the client. So to me,
> requirements
> are how I make the transition from idea, to code logic, and
> comments are how
> I let other people reading my code know what is going on. It's
> not my job as
> a programmer, nor should it be to decide whether this feature is
> a good idea
> or not, that would only detract from my ability to figure out the
> logical
> process to get us from point a to point b. Point's a and b cannot
> be decided
> by me, or it becomes _my_ project not the clients. Hence the
> right side of
> my brain is a detriment in relation to my job as a programmer.
>
> So my whole point is, that if I do my job, and the pm does
> his/her job, then
> my severe left brain bias is a strength, not a weakness as was
> implied by
> the article, because once I know what to do, the code is the easy
> part.
>
> My .02
>
>
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