wasn't that why they felt they had to forge that letter?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >The Atta-Prague connection is murky, but it is clear he was there at
>> >least once, and perhaps twice, though the April, 2001 meeting is
>> >unclear. What did he do in six hours inside the Prague airport,
>> which
>> >he flew to knowing that he could not get out of the airport because
>> he
>> >didn't have a visa? The case on what Atta did in Prague and who he
>> met
>> >with is hardly clear, even now.
>> >
>> >http://www.slate.com/id/2091354/
>>
>> You know I did a quick search on it, all I could find that still
>> supported the Atta-Iraq connection was extremist right wingnut blogs
>> and media sources. Not the most reliable of sources. BTW you brought
>> up the only other article not from a right wingnut source, but is
>> there anything more recent that 5 years ago?
>
> BTW here's a pretty good newsweek article from last year that actually 
> examines the issue, and finds no reliable evidence for any connection.
>
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/60443/output/print
>
> Terror Watch: Dubious Link Between Atta And Saddam
>
> A Document Tying The Iraqi Leader With The 9/11 Terrorist Is Probably Fake. 
> Plus, How Terror Financiers Manage To Stay In Business
> Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
> Newsweek Web Exclusive
> Updated: 1:15 PM ET Oct 23, 2007
>
> A widely publicized Iraqi document that purports to show that September 11 
> hijacker Mohammed Atta visited Baghdad in the summer of 2001 is probably a 
> fabrication that is contradicted by U.S. law-enforcement records showing Atta 
> was staying at cheap motels and apartments in the United States when the trip 
> presumably would have taken place, according to U.S. law enforcement 
> officials and FBI documents.
>
> The new document, supposedly written by the chief of the Iraqi intelligence 
> service, was trumpeted by the Sunday Telegraph of London earlier this week in 
> a front-page story that broke hours before the dramatic capture of Saddam 
> Hussein. TERRORIST BEHIND SEPTEMBER 11 STRIKE WAS TRAINED BY SADDAM, ran the 
> headline on the story written by Con Coughlin, a Telegraph correspondent and 
> the author of the book "Saddam: The Secret Life."
>
> Coughlin's account was picked up by newspapers around the world and was cited 
> the next day by New York Times columnist William Safire. But U.S. officials 
> and a leading Iraqi document expert tell NEWSWEEK that the document is most 
> likely a forgery--part of a thriving new trade in dubious Iraqi documents 
> that has cropped up in the wake of the collapse of Saddam's regime.
>
> "It's a lucrative business," says Hassan Mneimneh, codirector of an Iraqi 
> exile research group reviewing millions of captured Iraqi government 
> documents. "There's an active document trade taking place ... You have 
> fraudulent documents that are being fabricated and sold" for hundreds of 
> dollars a piece.
>
> Mneimneh said he hadn't seen the Telegraph document that purports to place 
> Atta in Baghdad. But he, along with senior U.S. law-enforcement and 
> intelligence officials, said the claims of an Atta trip to Iraq in the months 
> before the September 11 attacks were highly implausible--and contradicted by 
> a wealth of information that has been collected about Atta's movements during 
> the period he was plotting the attacks on the World Trade Center and the 
> Pentagon.
>
> The Telegraph story was apparently written with a political purpose: to 
> bolster Bush administration claims of a connection between Al Qaeda and 
> Saddam's regime. The paper described a "handwritten memo" that was supposedly 
> sent to Saddam Hussein by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, chief of Iraqi 
> intelligence at the time. It describes a three-day "work program" that Atta 
> had undertaken in Baghdad under the tutelage of notorious Palestinian 
> terrorist Abu Nidal, who lived in the Iraqi capital until his death under 
> suspicious circumstances in August 2002.
>
> "Mohammed Atta, an Egyptian national, came with Abu Ammer [who is 
> unidentified] and we hosted him in Abu Nidal's house at Al-Dora under our 
> direct supervision," the document states. "We arranged a work program for him 
> for three days with a team dedicated to working with him ... He displayed 
> extraordinary effort and showed a firm commitment to lead the team which will 
> be responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy."
>
> The document, which according to Coughlin was supplied by Iraq's interim 
> government, doesn't say exactly when Atta was supposed to have actually flown 
> to Baghdad. But the memo is dated July 1, 2001, and Coughlin himself places 
> the trip as the summer of 2001.
>
> The problem with this, say U.S. law enforcement officials, is that the FBI 
> has compiled a highly detailed time line for Atta's movements throughout the 
> spring and summer of 2001 based on a mountain of documentary evidence, 
> including airline records, ATM withdrawals and hotel receipts. Those records 
> show Atta crisscrossing the United States during this period--making only one 
> overseas trip, an 11-day visit to Spain that didn't begin until six days 
> after the date of the Iraqi memo.
>
> One FBI document, labeled "Law Enforcement Sensitive," states that during the 
> summer of 2001, Atta "conducted extensive travel" that included visits in 
> Florida, Boston, New York, New Jersey and Las Vegas. Indeed, this and other 
> FBI documents show that during the last few days in June--when the presumed 
> Iraq trip would appear to have occurred--almost all of Atta's movements are 
> accounted for: On June 27, 2001, Atta flew from Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., to 
> Boston. On the morning of June 28, he traveled from Boston to San Francisco 
> (flying first class) where he switched planes and landed in Las Vegas that 
> afternoon at 2:41 p.m. That afternoon, he rented a Chevrolet Malibu from an 
> Alamo rental-car office, set up an account at an Internet cafe called the 
> Cyber Zone and checked into the EconoLodge motel on Las Vegas Boulevard, a 
> cheap motel in a neighborhood of seedy strip joints that is located barely 
> two blocks from the local FBI office.
>
> The FBI records show Atta logged onto his Cyber Zone Internet account five 
> times over the next two days and then checked out of the EconoLodge at 3:30 
> a.m. on the morning of July 1. He then returned his rental car and boarded a 
> flight to Denver at 5:59 a.m., landing in Boston later that day. A week 
> later, on July 7, Atta boarded a flight from Boston to Zurich--the first leg 
> on his trip to Spain. He returned to the United States on July 19, 2001.
>
> Much about Atta's movements is still unknown--and most likely will remain so. 
> FBI officials believe, for example, that Atta flew to Las Vegas as part of a 
> series of trips he took that summer to test security at U.S. airports in 
> preparation for the September 11 attacks. But it is just a theory. The visit 
> to Spain is believed to have been for a meeting with Ramzi bin al-Shibh, one 
> of the planners of the September 11 attacks, who also was in Spain during the 
> same time.
>
> While all of Atta's movements cannot be accounted for, enough is known to 
> make it "highly unlikely" that the September 11 ringleader could have flown 
> off to Baghdad for a three-day work program with Iraqi intelligence, a FBI 
> official told NEWSWEEK. For similar reasons, the bureau has long since 
> discounted claims by Czech intelligence--and widely promoted by some Iraq 
> hawks in the Bush administration--that Atta had flown to Prague to meet with 
> an Iraqi intelligence agent around April 8, 2001.
>
> FBI records show Atta and fellow hijacker Marwan Al-Shehhi checking out of 
> the Diplomat Inn in Virginia Beach, Va., and writing a check for cash for 
> $8,000 for a SunTrust account in that city on April 4, 2001. For the rest of 
> that week, Atta's cell phone was used to make repeated calls to Florida. On 
> April 11, Atta rented an apartment in Coral Springs, Fla. While acknowledging 
> that a few days are unaccounted for, the FBI has found no evidence that Atta 
> departed the country overseas during this period, an official said.
>
> Mneimneh, the Iraqi document expert, says that there are other reasons to 
> discount the handwritten memo touted by the Telegraph. The document includes 
> another sensational second item: how Iraqi intelligence, helped by a "small 
> team from the Al Qaeda organization," arranged for a shipment from Niger to 
> reach Iraq by way of Libya and Syria. Although the shipment is unspecified, 
> the reference to Niger was immediately suggestive of Bush administration 
> assertions earlier this year that Iraq sought to import yellowcake uranium 
> from that African nation--claims that also have been widely discredited as 
> being based on other forged documents that apparently came from the Niger 
> Embassy in Rome.
>
> Mneimneh says the wording of the document makes him highly suspicious: Iraqi 
> intelligence officials were notoriously conservative and rarely--if ever--put 
> incriminating information in writing. The reference to the Iraqi intelligence 
> working with a "small team from the Al Qaeda organization" is "too explicit," 
> he says.
>
> Ironically, even the Iraqi National Congress of Ahmed Chalabi, which has been 
> vocal in claiming ties between Al Qaeda and Saddam's regime, was dismissive 
> of the new Telegraph story. "The memo is clearly nonsense," an INC spokesman 
> told NEWSWEEK.
>
> Contacted by Newsweek, The Sunday Telegraph's Con Coughlin acknowledged that 
> he could not prove the authenticity of the document. He said that while he 
> got the memo about Mohammed Atta and Baghdad from a "senior" member of the 
> Iraqi Governing Council who insisted it was "genuine," he and his newspaper 
> had "no way of verifying it. It's our job as journalists to air these things 
> and see what happens," he said.
>
> Holes in the Terror Financing Net
>
> What does it take to shut down a major terrorist finance network ? U.S., 
> European and United Nations investigators acknowledge that despite decisions 
> by the Bush administration and the United Nations to put out of business a 
> Swiss-and-Bahamas-based Islamic financial network called Al-Taqwa ("Fear of 
> God" in Arabic), the network's long-time chief, who is also the subject of 
> U.S. and United Nations sanctions, still is fighting to keep some of his 
> businesses open.
>
> Youssef Nada, an elderly Egyptian financier who founded and ran the Al-Taqwa 
> network from bases in southern Switzerland and northern Italy, was designated 
> a terrorist financier by the Bush administration in November 2001. A U.S. 
> Treasury official testified to Congress that Nada had provided financial 
> assistance to Al Qaeda both before and after the 9/11 attacks. In 2002, the 
> Treasury placed more than a dozen companies established by Nada and an 
> Eritrean-born business associate named Ahmed Idris Nasreddin on the U.S. 
> terrorist finance sanctions list.
>
> But U.N. officials and some news organizations recently have reported that 
> despite international and U.S. sanctions, Nada and Nasreddin have continued 
> to operate companies and own businesses--including luxury hotels in Italy 
> owned by Nasreddin. And NEWSWEEK has learned that authorities in the tiny 
> alpine money haven of Liechtenstein have recently failed in efforts to seize 
> control over the remnants of one of Nada's corporate vehicles.
>
> In an apparent effort to keep part of his financial network alive, 
> law-enforcement sources say, Nada successfully applied to Liechtenstein 
> officials for permission to rename two of his companies based in the pocket 
> principality, both of which were in the process of liquidation. Liechtenstein 
> authorities subsequently launched an effort to oust Nada as liquidator of one 
> of the companies, now called Waldenberg, and install a former senior 
> Liechtenstein government official as the new liquidator. This would have 
> given investigators control over what remains of the records of the company, 
> which might have yielded valuable clues as to Nada's financial activities.
>
> But European law-enforcement sources say that a judge in Liechtenstein 
> recently rejected the government's proposals to install a new liquidator, 
> leaving Nada in charge of the failed company--and its critical records. A 
> recent U.N. report noted that even though U.N. sanctions say that officially 
> designated terrorist financiers like Nada must not be allowed to travel 
> internationally, Nada has traveled from his residence in a tiny enclave of 
> Italian territory surrounded by the Swiss canton of Ticino to Liechtenstein 
> on business. A Swiss government official said that due to relaxed travel 
> controls around Europe, it is not practical for the Swiss government to 
> enforce an international travel ban on Nada, who has repeatedly denied any 
> connection to Al Qaeda or terrorism.
>
> Terror Watch, written by Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball appears online 
> weekly
> URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/60443
>
>
> 

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