Point: When Israel was created it was supposed to be aside an Arab state (the term 
Palestinians was not created or used until years later).
Point: when Israel was created, it was immediately invaded by every Arab country 
around it.
Point:  the Arabs not only declared war but told the Palestinians to flee the conflict 
because they expected to exterminate the Jews in no time at all.
Point: A large chunk of the land assigned to the Palestinian state was taken by both 
Egypt and Jordan, neither of which decided to give it to the Palestinians. 
Point: Israel signed a treaty with Arafat where he said he's stop the attacks and 
fighting.
Point: He never did and all evidence points to him not only supporting the attacks but 
financing it as well.
Point: When the Palestinans want peace they'll have to stand up to those who are 
willing to let them die for war; their Arab brothers.

At 02:05 PM 4/2/02, you wrote:
>>If the Palestinian Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements
>>were to conduct their attacks and suicide bombings
>>exclusively against the Israeli army in the
>>West Bank and Gaza, I would consider it equivalent to
>>the American Colonies struggle against the British
>>occupation, the Israeli struggle over 50 years
>>ago, etc.  Instead, I consider it cold-blooded
>murder.
>
>So when Israel was created in 1948, and I wont get
>into how many people killed and left homeless, but
>what do you think that Palestinians called what was
>being done to them ? there was no Palestinian army,and
>no Palestinian Government,  it was all against
>Palestinian civilians, and in the first Intifada,
>there was no Arafat and there was no Palestinian
>police , and there was not �Suicide Bombings� and
>�terrorist� for an uprising that lasted 10 years, yet
>the army still attacked civilians, cause there was no
>one else to attack.�.so by your definition of what
>terrorism is,  does that not fit in as Israeli
>terrorism against Palestinian people ?, you seem to
>think that the Israeli occupation against the
>Palestinians just started when the Suicide bombings
>started happening, or after 9/11�.the Palestinian
>uprising has been going on for over 15 years now��and
>the Israeli oppression against the Palestinian people
>is not a cause of  �Suicide bombings�, it�s a 52 year
>old conflict, and not a response to �terrorist�
>attacks against Israelis��This is not the US and
>afganistan and as much as Sharon likes to make the
>association that he is Bush and Arafat is Bin Laden
>and the palestinians are the Taliban and he is out to
>�make peace in world�, that is not the case. The US
>has not been oppressing and occupying the Afganies,
>and the US has not been killing Afganies for 52 years,
>and Bin laden was not attacking the US and its
>citizens in self defense and in the only way they know
>how�
>
>And to clear something out, when I post a response, or
>show URLs or argue with anyone, I can see that some
>think it�s a personal attack or an attack on Jews on
>general, or im trying to distort the image of
>somone(only Sharon!!), I apologize to those who feel
>that way, cause its not ment like that at all, and
>this is totally not an attack on Jews, this is trying
>to give my view and my points, and they are all
>against Israel and the Israeli army, and the there
>tactics and there oppression of Palestinians, nothing
>to do with anything against Jews in general, or
>against the Jews existence(like I was sadly accused!),
> and definitely not against anyone on this
>list�.Israeli army shooting at kids and women and all
>there tactics and oppression for the past 52 years im
>sure are of no direct orders from anyone on this list
>nor are are they the representative in any way of the
>Jewish religion. There are extremist and there are
>killers and there thugs and there terrorist and bad
>people in all religions, and you can never ever deny
>that, and as a Muslim I sure wouldn�t accuse a whole
>religion for the actions of a few , cause I sure know
>how that feels�There was protest all over the world
>yesterday in support of the Palestinians and for there
>blood shed to stop, even in China and Japan , and
>Belgium and all over Europe and In the US, even in
>ISRAEL, even the ISRAELI people went to the streets to
>demand there government ends immediately the killing
>and all the starvation and destruction it is
>causing�.when Israelis who are the main target for
>suicide bombers protest the actions of the government
>against ALL the Palestinians, you got to believe what
>is going on there is terrible and its true�
>
>
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