On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:59 PM, denstar wrote: > >> This is what you and Sam are fighting for. > > illegal hacking of political candidates communications? no, i don't think so.
Indirectly. It's how they git ya. =] >> Or are you going to bust an about-face, and claim privacy and whatnot >> is *really* what you've been running on, and those other guys don't >> know what they're talking about, you're the *real* privacy advocates? > > i have never been on board with breaking into the communications of us > citizens, except under very specific circumstances- warrants of > course, plus the communications where parties are outside the us but > communications pass through us networks, and only if at least one of > those parties are suspected of terrorist activity, and only in the > short term- congress will have a say on the patriot act again. > > i don't like it, but i'd rather have that than another terrorist > attack. we're at the boundaries of what i think is ok to give up in > terms of liberties for this fight. Well, "that" we don't have, so I'm sorta like, wassup, yo? =] In one paragraph you say what you think would be acceptable, and then you say we're at your limit, only, we're *way* past what you said you thought was acceptable. Either yer past your limit, or you haven't been reading any of those links that have been posted. But seriously, you're talking about "preventing terrorist attacks"? You'd only catch the lame-ass terrorists, as you well know. The scary, rich, powerful ones are way past hotmail and plain 'old cellphones, dude. Library books? That's totally besides the point tho, as we're way past having accountability and TRANSPARENCY. Transparency is cool because then we know what the government is doing, as much as some people think that's a security concern. Which, again, is wicked backwards-- To a certain extent, if ya dig. >From what I've learned, you simply cannot trust the government. And that seems as it should be, from history, and whatnot. See, it's not really "the government"... it's us. Eh. Sweet dreams, man. -- The splinter in your eye is the best magnifying-glass. Theodor Adorno ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:269874 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
