What I said was "repeating a lie doesn't make it true".  That's
different from the effectiveness of propaganda, which states "repeat
the lie enough and people will believe it".  But that still doesn't
make it true, and eventually the truth will out

I think a lot of people who bought the lies from Bush now realize how
badly they were deceived and they are not likely to follow that path
again.  Unfortunately there are many people who bought the lie and are
in denial about it.  They cannot bring themselves to admit their own
gullibility, hence their continued insistence that Bush is right, even
in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

The demonetization of the opposition is an effective campaign
technique.  It killed the political chances of Howard Dean, John Kerry
and numerous others, going all the way back to Julius Caesar.  It's
been used to drum up support for wars by creating villains out of the
leaders of countries we opposed, such as Saddam Hussein.  The most
visible current target of this dis-information technique is Hugo
Chavez.

What amuses me here on this list is how some think that painting a
candidate as a leftist will scare people away.  Often when the pundits
rave about the candidate's position, instead of being dissuaded from
voting, I'm encouraged by candidate's stance.

After eight years of Clinton and eight years of Shrub, having a
President who reflects my ideals on civil rights,  the war, the
economy and the role of government is a good thing to me, and I'm
somewhat bemused that they just don't get that.


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is the line that was repeated after 9-11 which effectively negated
> any opposition to the Patriot Act, increased surveillance of US
> Citizens by the government etc. etc.
>
> This method of negative and sensationalist characterizations seems to
> work almost all the time with the American public.
> The Bush Administration have used this method time and time again with
> great success.
>
> why do you think it will not work now?
>
> 2008/10/26 Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> A pro-Palestinian position is not the same as anti-American.    Being
>> a Democrat is not the same as being anti-American.   Disagreeing with
>> the government when it is wrong does not make someone anti-American.
>> In fact, we have not only the right but the duty to speak out when
>> those who would govern us make grievous errors in our name.
>>
>> Just because someone does not agree with your political stance does
>> not make them anti-American.
>>
>> Obama is an honorable man and a United States Senator.  He does not
>> hate America.
>>
>> Repeating that  lie will never make it true.
>
> 

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