You know, your right. Some of them are just anti-white people, not all
Americans. I don't have more than 3 seconds (and not even that) so I did a
tiny bit of research and pulled up some names

Ayres - anti-American but 'repented'
Wright - Anti-American but forgotten

"In April 2004, Barack Obama told a reporter from the Chicago Sun-Times that
he had three spiritual mentors or counselors: Jeremiah Wright, James Meeks,
and Father Michael Pfleger" I'll skip the other two mentors as race baiting
is not anti-American.

Khalidi - pro-suicide bombing but not anti-American. Said to be a former PLO
spokesman though this is probably unofficial
Dr. Khalid al-Mansour - Anti-American? Just anti-White or Jewish. And that
cutting thing against whites, just hyperbole.
Tony Rezko - criminal but not Anti-American. And those middle eastern ties
(such as Syria) are probably just stories used to build smoke against Obama.

Mazen Asbahi - "a frequent speaker before several groups in the U.S. that
scholars have associated with the Muslim Brotherhood."
Minha Husaini -  "met with members of several Islamic organizations in
Virginia on September 15 -- including some that terrorism experts say have
ties to Hamas and the radical Muslim Brotherhood."

Besides Khalidi, a few anti-israel members of Obama's campaign include
Merrill McPeak, vice chairman of Obama's campaign and his chief military
adviser - blames problems in the Middle East on the influence of people who
live in New York City and Miami whom no 'politician wants to run against'
and who he says exercise undue influence on America's foreign affairs. Maybe
he means Episcopalians.
Samantha Power, a very close adviser whom Obama fired for calling Hillary a
'monster' but who says she still expects to be in Obama's administration.
Not only has Power has advocated the ending of all aid to Israel and
redirecting it to the Palestinians, but she has spoken about the need to
land a 'mammoth force' of US troops in Israel to protect the Palestinians
from Israeli attempts at genocide (sic) -- and has complained that criticism
of Barack Obama all too often came down to what was 'good for the Jews'.
Muslim outreach advisers - dumped

Bottom line goes to wisdom of association. I'm not saying he's been
influenced by people with truly vile ideas/ideals over many years. I'm not
saying that they will have a place in his cabinet. I'm saying that he has
more than a passing association with people who are not friends to me as an
American, me as a Jew and me as someone seen by them as white.

And no, I don't think Jews have a place with the Christian right any more
than we do with the liberal left. One wants to convert us or punish us for
rejecting their god while the other sees us as the root of all evil (or
Israel is and Jews by extension).

And as a side note, I've said a few times I wished that the Bush/Saudi ties
were more investigated as I think that they have been, are and will be a
detriment to this country.

As for your post, did you resend it? If so, was it a plain text post or a
'rich text' one? Can you CC me if/when you do resend it. I'm not blocking it
because of content or sender so it must be something else. Hell, I even let
Gruss's posts through. Shows how liberal I am. :)



On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've counted three who you might be able to call anti-American if you
> stretch the definition so that anti-Israeli equal anti-America.  Is
> three more than a few?
>
> Are you accountable for the political stance or actions of all of your
> clients, co-workers or friends?
>
> Is there any evidence beyond his acquaintance with these people that
> Obama is influenced by them in any way?   Are they currently advising
> him?  Writing his platform?  Will they have jobs in his government?
> Is he still in bed with them the way McCain is with the religious
> right? I think not.
>
> I'm not selecting a President based on guilt by association, but if I
> were, McCain's associates scare me more than Obama's.
>
> Do you think there will be place for Jews in the United States if the
> radical Christian dominists have their way with our government?  Are
> you conversant with the theocratic agenda of the religious right?  Do
> you know that members of Joel's Army, which is closely associated with
> Sarah Palin, believe that Jesus will not return until they control the
> US government, and that any one who opposes them should be executed?
>
> And I know you think I'm only saying McCain did worse.  Well, yes,
> because to me, McCain did worse, and if we're going to have the
> discussion about Obama's associates, then McCain's are fair game.
> His close association with the members of radical Christian right puts
> anyone who is not a member of one of the groups at peril.
>
> BTW, my post about Arocena still hasn't shown up on the list.
>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > While Obama may not hate America, he has close associations with those
> who
> > are quite vocal about their hate. Well, except that he's distances
> himself
> > from them so it's all ok. Except that there seem to be more than a few.
>
> 

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