On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Here is a study I found that seems to refute your studies, so who is
> right?
> >
> >http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp
> >
>
> Without getting into a dissertation on the topic let me just refer you to
> why a single study is an inadequate way to refute finding, for a larger
> discussion of it see http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons/MetaAnalysis.htm.
>
> Secondly, mediaresearch.org also is not the most unbiased source. In fact
> their agenda presupposes bias right from the beginning, from their About
> page:
> --
> The mission of the Media Research Center is to bring balance to the news
> media.  Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that
> within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that
> influenced the public's understanding of critical issues. On October 1,
> 1987, a group of young determined conservatives set out to not only prove —
> through sound scientific research — that liberal bias in the media does
> exist and undermines traditional American values, but also to neutralize its
> impact on the American political scene. What they launched that fall is the
> now acclaimed — Media Research Center  (MRC).
> --
> (http://www.mediaresearch.org/about/aboutwelcome.asp)
>
> Let me repeat what they said, "Leaders of America's conservative movement
> have long believed that within the national news media a strident liberal
> bias..."
>
> so you see the difference between something published in a scientific
> journal vs. a conservative setup group. MRC by their own admission starts
> with a conclusion then twists any research to support that conclusion.
>
> Personally I prefer real research to conservative shills.
>

You prefer something that agrees with you.

You've been adamant throughout this thread about the use of logic.

A - "They had a belief"
B - "They conducted a study"
C - "The study twists any research to support that conclusion"

You cannot logically arrive at C from premises A and B.  It's your opinion
that they're twisting any research to support that conclusion.  But I see no
facts or data to back up that opinion.

Show me data that proves they twisted their research to support a
predetermined conclusion.  Because if you cannot back up what you're saying
with data then it gives an idea of what your opinion is worth.

-- 
I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my
wife. And I wish you my kind of success.


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