Yup, the time for a policy of appeasement is over. I believe that you
have repeatedly said that yourself.

Oh, wait...you want appeasement when it comes to right-wing nutjobs in the US?

Sorry, no deal.

I didn't care for the Democratic Party for a long time (and I'm still
suspicious of them) because they didn't seem to stand for much of
anything except getting elected. And as a result, they tended to not
get elected so much. And they deserved that. The Republican Party lost
a lot of moderates but at least were pushing a perceived philosophy.
To quote the Big Lebowski: "Say what you will about the tenants of
National Socialism, but at least its an ethos. "

Progressives have been pushing for an ethos on the left. There is
disagreement about what all it should include of course, there is no
perfectly unified front. And politicians are still politicians and
will cave to expediency on occassion (see my vitriolic ire about
Obama's vote on FISA). But yeah, I want to see people stand up and say
"hey, here's what we believe in" and not back down from it, not fear
ticking off people that don't agree with them. I'm in favor of
universal health care. It ought to be considered a fundamental right.
You may not agree and that's cool but I'm not going to back down and
try to appease you because you're going to claim it's "liberal" and
"socialist" and try to scare me off and say that its not what the
center of the country wants.

Your definition of "the middle" sucks dead donkey balls. For the past
two decades the "left" in the US would be considered center-right most
places. You think that Obama is really a leftist marxist socialist?
Hahahaha. I'm far more worried that he's going to be a corporate tool
like the "leaders" of the Democratic Party have been for quite some
time.

Fox wants to keep running smear jobs on Democrats and suckle at Bush's
teat? Fine. Fuck them. They have every right to, but don't come
whinging when their reporters get left off a campaign plane. No
appeasement.

Go out, state your case for your philosophy on government, society and
priorities and let the people decide how much they agree.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like this:
>
> According to the storyline that drives many advocacy groups and
> Democratic activists - a storyline often reflected in comments on this
> blog - we are up against a sharply partisan, radically conservative,
> take-no-prisoners Republican party. They have beaten us twice by
> energizing their base with red meat rhetoric and single-minded
> devotion and discipline to their agenda. In order to beat them, it is
> necessary for Democrats to get some backbone, give as good as they
> get, brook no compromise, drive out Democrats who are interested in
> "appeasing" the right wing, and enforce a more clearly progressive
> agenda. The country, finally knowing what we stand for and seeing a
> sharp contrast, will rally to our side and thereby usher in a new
> progressive era.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Nope.  He said that some in the nation have elected "incompetent,
>> highly ideological" leaders.  These leaders have failed you and failed
>> the country.
>>
>> If you are someone who recognizes this failure, then he's reaching out
>> to you to let you know that his interest in building a  "working
>> majority" which will mean compromises and inclusive policy making that
>> moves the country forward.
>>
>> So he's asking for your vote if you're interested comprehensive policy
>> that serves the center 80%.
>>
>> He's telling you he's not interested in serving the left 10% or the
>> right 10% but the center 80%.
>>
>> It's me that's calling you stupid for not voting for him.
>>
>
> 

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