On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a major flaw in your thinking here.

Maybe, maybe not.

> I'd be willing to agree
> that McCain is to the left of many (most even? I don't know)
> conservatives. But it is wrong to define the bulk of the political
> landscape in terms of the very fringes.

I don't remember doing that.

> By that same argument you
> could say that Obama is far to the right of lot of liberals.

He said himself no compromise and no appeasing the right wing, it
looks like he's referring to most republicans as right-wing, and usher
in a new progressive era.
I think of progressives as the far left, if so Obama called himself
far left so you're thinking is flawed.

> He's not
> going to abolish the military, he's not going to stop all logging in
> the US, he's not going to legalize drugs (sadly). But I'm not going to
> say that Obama is a right-winger because he doesn't toe the far left
> line.

It's never all or nothing, which is why I'm not only conservative.
That said, he did say he was going to gut the military, he can't
abolish it because he'll need it to invade Pakistan.

> The fringes of the left and the right are small in numbers. I'd
> venture to guess that there are about as many people that want to
> abolish the military as want to implement a flat tax.
> But what if 60%
> of people in America want Universal Healthcare? What if 70% wanted
> full college tuition deduction from taxes? Wouldn't that make those
> "centrist" positions? Yeah, they are far to the left of what Dick
> Cheney would say. So? Who says that Dick Cheney gets to define what
> the middle of the political spectrum is?

Most people want free pie too, but not if it's stolen.
So yes, I'd rather not pay for medical insurance but I haven't seen a
workable health care plan.

> I think that Obama will win the election for the precise reason that
> people should win elections: he speaks to a larger share of the
> country than his opponent and they share his values and approve of his
> policies more than his opponent.

Again he's to the left and playing to the center. if he wins he goes
back to the left. McCain is in the center and playing to the right. If
he wins he goes back to the center. Isn't that the goal to get someone
in the center?

Obama has changed every promise he's made already. I think most people
know it's smoke and mirrors.

> That would seem to go a long way to defining what the true "center" is.

There is no true center it's just averages.

> Judah

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