Since the numerous forum posts on the gay marriage subject I haven't been able 
to stop thinking about this issue. I have a tendency to be a little o.c. when I 
have a problem to solve. It's a blessing when it comes to app development, but 
a bit of a curse in everyday life.

So I've been running this over and over in my brain the past couple of days. 
Trying to analyze the reason for my opinions, if I feel it's right etc etc.

Well last night we had dinner with Peter and Brian, a gay couple that have been 
friends of my wife and I for years. P&B are the straightest gay couple you've 
ever met. You'd be very hard pressed to discern they're gay unless they tell 
you. We've never discussed the issue of gay marriage before. In fact our 
conversations rarely have anything to do with sexual orientation. So I brought 
it up with them after dinner and over our second bottle of shiraz. We have a 
very open and honest friendship and there's never any need to not say exactly 
what's on your mind for fear of being judged. So in our usual fashion I just 
laid it on the table exactly what I thought about marriage and my views on gays 
marrying. They both listened to what I had to say and when I was done Peter 
looked at me and said "after all these years I had no idea you were retarded. 
You hide it very well Michael." This of course got a laugh but spurned one of 
the most honest and open discussions I've ever had. Peter and Brian both told 
us about what it was like growing up 'different' and the self loathing they 
felt for so many years. The shame of growing up gay in 70's and 80's and the 
absolute joy of finding each other and becoming a couple. They talked about how 
different times are now than they used to be, but how far things still need to 
go. After about an hour of stories Brian asked me "since you've known us have 
you ever questioned our devotion to each other?" I said no. "And do you want us 
to be happy?" I said yes. "And has having us around ever made you love your 
wife less?" By this time I knew where the conversation was going and I was 
already feeling a little embarrassed by my comments at the start of the 
conversation. I said no, of course not. I was expecting some Bill Cosby-esque 
moral to the story when Brian said in a deadpan voice "Then quit being such a 
fucktard." That was pretty much the end of the conversation. We played Euchre 
for a couple of hours and they went home.

Now I'm not saying I've made a 180 degree turn. There's still a part of me 
that's holding on to the idea of "between a man and a woman" but I definitely 
realise that I don't have much of a leg to stand on. They happen to not really 
care one way or the other about being married but that's not really the point. 
The point is that I wouldn't want to deny P&B the same happiness or 
opportunities that I have.

I've read through that whole thread again, and know that other than my first 
post all of the posts I made were from a defensive position. I was being forced 
to defend an opinion that from the start I knew I hadn't put a whole lot of 
thought into. When one has to defend something there is a tendency to stop 
thinking about what it is you are defending and simply put your energies into 
the defense itself. Us and them syndrome as it were. 

So that's that. My mind isn't completely changed. This isn't an after school 
special or a p.s.a. However I felt I owed it to you all to share it.

Cheers

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