> Are you arguing we shouldn't have went in, shouldn't win or can't win?
> Or all of the above?

1. Shouldn't have gone in.
2. How does one qualify "winning" when you've set back American foreign policy 
more than 50 years?
3. How does one qualify "winning" when not even your oldest allies trust you 
anymore?

If "winning" means Americans not dying in the 68th month of it's three month 
war... then fine... you're winning. 
One step forward, four thousand two hundred and four steps back... and counting.

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