Well put Beth. larry
-- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: new web cam > > > I think a ferret is not a pet for small children, although I > dont' think > they are "dangerous". > > I would not leave ANY pet, dog, cat, rat, hamster - alone with a baby. > There could be problems either way. Babies could poke dog in > eyes. Cat > could scratch..etc. > > My thinking on the ferret-baby-eating thing: > > Ferrets love milk and will do anything to get it. Even my > girls who NEVER > bit, would chew a bit on skin if it had milk on it. Babies have milk > covered faces. Ferrets might chew on that. > > However the kid in question is ten. And the youngest member of the > household. So i think this is not an issue. > > Ferrets bond best to people when you have one. My first ferret was > incredibly bonded to me. But her sister was never quite that tight - > nonetheless I think for the quality of life of the ferrets > two is better. > However, i would not get them at the same time. Get one > first, train and > learn to manage him/her and then get another. > > Ferrets often get stuck in weird places and die. Ferrets get > outside and > die. Ferrets must have good veterinary care or die. Ferrets > need attention > or else they go nuts. All of these are the biggest > consideration. Will the > son love and care for this animal WELL for the next 9 years. > If not, will > you? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:19 AM > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > From the ferretcentral.org faq: > > -- > > What about ferrets attacking babies? > > There are several stories floating around about ferrets > attacking babies, > > some more true than others. Ferrets are unfamiliar to most > people, so it's > > easier for them to make sweeping statements on the basis of > a tiny amount > of > > information. Some of the reports are simply rumor, or the result of > > confusing another animal with a ferret. Others are based in > fact, but omit > > important information (for instance, that the child and > pets had clearly > > been neglected or abused prior to the attack). A small number are > > unfortunately true. > > However, plenty of children have been attacked and even > killed by dogs and > > cats. The number of people injured by ferrets each year is > a tiny fraction > > of the number wounded or killed by dogs. People don't claim > that all dogs > > and cats are too dangerous for pets, but rather that more > responsible > > parenting and pet ownership is needed. > > > > According to Chris Lewis, former moderator of the Ferret > Mailing List: > > > > The FML has carried confirmed reports of two, possibly > three, cases where > an > > animal identified as a "ferret" has seriously injured, and > in one case, I > > believe, killed, infants. One in the UK, and one or two in > the US. In none > > of these cases has it been proven that the animal was a ferret - > > particularly in the UK, it is quite possible that the > animal was actually > an > > European polecat which are raised for fur and sometimes for > hunting (in > the > > UK). And in each case gross child and animal abuse is well > documented. But > > it's important to remember, that even the most pessimistic > statistics on > > ferrets show that a ferret is about a thousand times *less* > likely to > cause > > injury than a dog. Indeed, every year there are hundreds of > very serious > or > > fatal dog attacks in the US alone. Worst case statistics show > approximately > > 12 ferret attacks ever recorded in the US. > > Dr. Bruce Williams, DVM, adds: > > I can say from personal experience that there are many, > many more bite > > incidents with the household dog or cat, and that either of > these species > > tend to do a lot more damage. I have seen children require > over a hundred > > facial stitches from getting between the dog and its food, but never > > anything like this with a ferret. But I've also been nailed > by my share of > > ferrets too. > > Personally, I don't recommend ferrets for people with > children under 6 or > 7 > > - either the child or the ferret ends up getting hurt. > > -- > > > > regards, > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:13 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > Um... sorry to have to share this with you, but be careful > > > with Ferrets and > > > kids. A pair of them tried to eat my daughter once, no joke. > > > She had just > > > turned 1, and the pair of Ferrets my roommate had climbed > > > into her crib and > > > began chewing on her scalp. My dog Jake went nuts, and he > was the only > > > reason I knew anything was bad was wrong. The baby ended up > > > getting three > > > stitches once it was all over with, so... > > > > > > *noticable shudder remembering what it was like* > > > > > > I know they look cute and cuddly and you would never suspect > > > them of being > > > able to do much of anything, but think carefully before > buying one. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:53 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > Stephenie, > > > > > > first off explore this site http://www.ferretcentral.org, I'd > > > especially go > > > through this part of the FAQ. > > > http://www.ferretcentral.org/faq/part1.html#what_are > > > > > > Ferrets are can be great pets, a lot of those owned by > > > ferrets (or so it > > > seems) seem to think so. However they are high maintenence > > > pets. There is a > > > lot that you have to do with them. Ferret proofing is > > > important. Ferrets can > > > get into some very small places, and as a result you need to > > > go over your > > > place, blocking off potentially dangerous places, like > holes in walls, > > > cabinets etc. You need to make sure that the back and > undersides of > > > refridgerators and other applicances are not accessible. Is > > > your son willing > > > to do that? You may want to look at Mary R. Shefferman's The > > > Ferret: An > > > Owner's Guide to a Happy Healthy Pet > > > <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/087605498X/qid=1018982 > > > 829/sr=1-1/ref > > > =sr_1_1/104-9982261-7729531> as a starter. > > > > > > hth, > > > > > > larry > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:46 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, so my youngest (10 yrs old) really thinks he wants a > > > > ferret...of course i realize i would be doing most of the work > > > > (that is ok, i don't expect a 10 yr old to handle every > aspect of > > > > owning an animal)...but i wonder, if you get one, do they get > > > > lonely? if you get 2, do they get in 10 times as much trouble? > > > > what do they eat? how much do they cost monthly? what special > > > > problems do you have to look out for? what about the smell? i > > > > heard you can get their "glands" removed to elimiate the > > > > smell...is that in any way hazardous to them? is it expensive? > > > > what do the folks who have owned ferrets suggest for guidelines? > > > > any info would be appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ > > > > Stephenie Hamilton > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional > > > > http://coldfusionwebs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:11 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really they adapted their schedule to us. They wake > up around > > > > 6:30AM or > > > > so and are back asleep around 8 AM. They sleep most of the day > > > > until we get > > > > home. then around 6pm they start to wake up around then. However > > > > if I'm > > > > working at home and leave them out they come and go throughout > > > > the house as > > > > they please. Normally, we don't leave them out during the day, > > > > there are too > > > > many things that could happen or go wrong if we're at least not > > > > available to > > > > stop them from occurring. Generally they treat the cage as a > > > > place to sleep > > > > and eat. Rioting happens outside the cage. I'll look at rigging > > > > something up > > > > in the near future. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > EBStor.com > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:13 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, are ferrets nocturnal creatures? do they have to stay in > > > > that > > > > > cage all day? i want to see some fun furry antics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ > > > > > Stephenie Hamilton > > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional > > > > > http://coldfusionwebs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:04 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, i can finally see the furry critters! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ > > > > > Stephenie Hamilton > > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional > > > > > http://coldfusionwebs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:23 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good snoozing ferret shot this morning ... I have to keep > > > > > reminding myself > > > > > that I DO NOT need anymore quadrapeds in my apartment. I'm > > > > > already > > > > > outnumbered. > > > > > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:31 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait, not a 404, but a Cannot find server or DNS Error > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ > > > > > Stephenie Hamilton > > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional > > > > > http://coldfusionwebs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:27 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crud...i am getting a 404 at this url > > > > > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/weazlcam.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ > > > > > Stephenie Hamilton > > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional > > > > > http://coldfusionwebs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:34 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: new web cam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I finally broke down and decided to do something about that > > > > > logitech camera > > > > > someone gave us. So we set up a web cam of our ferrets: > > > > > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/weazlcam.htm > > > > > > > > > > enjoy, > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Larry C. 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