And so how does that make it better? Let me put it this way, we use torture. 
Does that make us any better than the ba'athist scum of Saddam? Since when does 
descending to the level of the moral equivalent of human slime make us any 
better than him. Pardon me but as far as I can see if you wallow in shit you 
smell and look like shit. 

If you use the same methods as that sort of shit, doesn't that make you the 
same, or worse since you should know better. 

According to its ideals, and its propaganda, the US is better than that. Then 
why do you want this so called great country to wallow in that same level of 
shit? If so then the only conclusion one can reach is that you think this 
country is worth shit.

If so unlike you I think this country is worth a lot more than that. If so then 
it should start acting like it.

>The history of the Middle East is five thousand years of kings, dictators,
>and warlords.
>
>As for torture by the US government, specific cases like Abu Ghraib were
>punished, and the worst treatment I have read that high-level terrorists
>received was weaterboarding, stress positions, hot and cold temperature
>changes, sleep deprivation, and some beatings. Bad in some cases, but also
>investigated and discontinued. And frankly, do I care if some Marines beat
>the crap out of Khaleid Sheik Mohammed? No. Screw that guy, he planned an
>attack that killed 3,000 civilians and destroyed a big chunk of downtown
>Manhattan. We should take a lesson from Singapore and have that asshole
>caned to death. That would be a fitting punishment for him.
>
>Compare to Saddam. If Saddam didn't like you, he had someone hang you on a
>meat hook by your flesh, pull out your fingernails with pliers, gouge out
>your eyes, or drop you in a printing press and have you squashed into jelly.
>Or he just dumped chemical weapons on your village and killed everyone.
>Maybe raped the women first, just for fun.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> The people are always more powerful than the government. Revolts of the
>> past
>> have happened and people have risen up no matter how tight the grip of
>> their
>> government. History is full of such occurrences. Funny how torture is wrong
>> when the Iraqi government is doing it but peachy keen when your government
>> is. 

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