My current bathroom material is still "The History of Pi", and they 
mentioned the original crusade, and the accepting of Christianity. The 
book said, that while exactly why the "bloody tyrants" of the different 
nations accepted Christianity after the fall of Rome, the reason that it 
stuck around was due to the "unparalleled organization and iron 
discipline" and that once it was accepted, "their excecutioners saw to 
it that nothing else was allowed." It goes on to briefly describe the 
three major religions that became militant throughout history, mediaeval 
Christianity, mediaeval Islam, and Communism.

Of all of them, Christianity was the most ruthless by far. Starting in 
the middle ages, and we all know who the only nation to ever use nuclear 
weapons is, on innocent civilians even. Yet when we look around the 
world today, which religion is dominant, which nation is dominant? Maybe 
not dominant numerically, but it's obvious the answer is Christianity 
(and it's relatives...), with much of it's power base in the US.

Just another example, that the ruthless win in this world imho. If we 
look around though, who is acting the most ruthless now? I see the 
Palestinian Muslims killing innocent Israelis, and most Muslim nations 
supporting the cause. That's damn ruthless. Leaving actual reasons out 
of the equation, reasons don't mean jack to history books. Reason 
actually is probably the antithisis of power if you ask me (corporate 
America is a damn good example of that :)), and the Christians 
definitely followed that theory with their absolute persectution of 
anything scientific during the Middle Ages.
So, can we allow someone to get away with being more ruthless than us? 
Especially if they control the oil supply.

jon
Howard Owens wrote:
> There's a right wing talk show host in San Diego, a former mayor, Roger
> Hedgecock. I happened to catch his show today ... he ranted about this very
> subject ... something along the lines of (not quoting exactly): It's time
> for another crusade. When you have a bunch of Muslim terrorists taking
> captive our clergy (meaning all Christians) and desecrating one of
> Christdom's most holy sites, it's time to take action."
> 
> Just FYI, Michael.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:31 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Peace Can Grow a 'Leaf' at a Time
> 
> 
> I'm just really tired and burned out from all of these articles that preach
> moral equivalency. Most of them have little to do with morals and lots to do
> with justification or fear. Justification for the murders (like the Saudi
> article saying that its a holy right) and fear such as the deafening silence
> from Christianity about armed terrorists holed up in a sacred site. I'm just
> tired of it all.
> 

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