How many non-muslims do you think are part of Al Queda or Mujahedeen? How many non-Irish do you think are part of the IRA?
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > > This always come back to Jews vs. Muslims. *sigh* > > Hmm, well I don't know many terrorist groups, but the top 3 groups that > come > to mind when I think terrorist: > > 1. Al Qaida (sp?) > 2. Mujahedeen (sp?) > 3. IRA > I understand the point you are trying to make but I think because of your > own bias you cannot understand the one I am making. > > These two things are not equal: > > All Al Qaida are Muslim != All Muslim are Al Qaida > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Michael Dinowitz < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What makes it seem strange? The fact that he's somewhere that he would > have > > no reason to be at a time that normal people would not be there. If you > saw > > me at a piggly wiggly at 3am then you should be suspicious. > > The description of Muslim does make a difference as I saw in the > beginning > > of the week. It wasn't an Indian, a Mormon, or an octogenarian who came > > into > > the synagogue threatening jihad. It was a Muslim. If I saw a skinhead > > hanging around a synagogue at strange hours I'd be concerned as well. > > I can count on one hand the amount of groups who teach out and out > violence > > against Jews. Muslims, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists are the top 3 > > without anyone else coming close. So who are the top 3 groups that come > to > > mind when you think terrorist? Forget PC and be honest with yourself. You > > don't even have to say it out loud (yes, I know about your fear of > > Buddhists). > > Adding the descriptor of an associated group to a profile is not fringe, > > it's standard. > > > > > > Your second example. Arab looking guy in a car with an Allah rules bumper > > > sticker hanging around synagogues at strange hours. You tell me what > > makes > > > this seems strange? Is it his appearance and his bumper sticker or is > it > > > the > > > fact he's hanging around synagogues at strange hours of the night? Does > > the > > > description of "Muslim" make a difference? I don't think so. Are you > > going > > > to ignore the white guy with the Hitler rules bumper sticker hanging > > around > > > synagogues at strange hours? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Michael Dinowitz < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > No, they should be questioned because they fit a profile that takes > > their > > > > age, race and perceived socio-economic status (based on the class of > > car) > > > > into account in addition to their location at a specific time. This > > > profile > > > > was very effective in catching kids buying drugs. So if you want to > see > > > an > > > > equivalent then we can take some Arab looking guy in a car with a > > "Allah > > > > Rules" bumper sticker hanging around synagogues at strange hours of > the > > > > night. Or he can have henna in his beard (a sign of devotion) or he > can > > > > have > > > > a handful of steriotypical clothing or or or. A profile has more than > a > > > > single element. > > > > > > > > I'm not seeing the congruency in your example either. > > > > > > > > Ok, so in this example they should be questioned because they are in > a > > > > black > > > > > neighbourhood. To go along with the thread topic we replace "Some > > white > > > > > kids > > > > > in a Ferrari" with a "Some Arab looking guys in robes who may/may > not > > > be > > > > > Muslim" right? What's the equivalent then to "a black > neighbourhood" > > in > > > > the > > > > > Arab (Muslim) profile? Does America = the black neighbourhood? I'm > > just > > > > not > > > > > really seeing the congruency here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291678 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
