maybe it depends on the union? I have never belonged to one personally
-- historically I have worked either for myself or for fairly small
businesses -- but I think they have gained important protections for
workers in many ways. I like having weekends, for example.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I speak from experience.  My father was in a union his whole life...and it
> sucked.  All they cared about was that he paid his dues.
>
> I watched as a company I spent 14 years at get decimated after the employees
> voted in a union.  I also hear a lot of people who voted for the union now
> complain that they made a mistake.
>
> I have seen how difficult it is to fire a union cardholder even if they are
> grossly incompetent at their job.
>
> You are painting with just as much of a broad brush, you are just using a
> different color.
>
> When you join a union, you don't gain any rights, you give them up.  You
> have to do what the union tells you.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Ian Skinner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Unions don't care about anything else except having more members and
>> taking
>> >> in more dues to make the guys at the top richer.  All while preaching
>> they
>> >> are making things better for the American worker.  Its bullshit, they
>> are no
>> >> differetn than the companies they are claiming to 'protect' its members
>> >> from.  I think at one time in our history unions were needed, but that
>> time
>> >> has long since past.
>>
>> Black and white broad brush much!
>>
>> Thank you very much, but I think I *WILL KEEP* my union that just
>> finished negotiating a deal that gives me and my fellow SEIU Local 1000
>> members back 1/2 of the income we would have lost for the next eighteen
>> months.  It is amazing how significant a difference between a 5% pay cut
>> versus the 10% pay cut the Governerator of California imposed on us.
>>
>> I agree there are union abuses that must be watched out for just as much
>> as corporate abuses.  I do not believe that they can just be done away
>> with.
>>
>>
>
> 

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