Actually you haven't been around that long, at least not to read my old anti-government treatises, and my libertarian rants. I rarely get involved in these discussions anymore because they get to me and I say awful things that I don't really mean and normal people don't know how to take that.
I personally am an isolationist and a nationalist. I don't think we should have started the war in Iraq, although at the time like most I did agree with it. I do however subscribe to the "we broke it we bought" it mentality. I also think it would be a travesty to emotionally abandon another generation of soldiers like we did with Vietnam. Any withdrawal has to be on our own terms. With Afghanistan, no, they attacked us, Al Queda and the Taliban were so interlinked that they may have well have been the same organization at higher levels. Now that they have moved mainly into Pakistan we need to follow them and deny them the areas they use to refit rest and rearm. Iran has been actively killing Americans and our allies the world over since the 1970s, we could, and maybe should, have declared war on them several times. I think the mullahs, the real leaders of that country, would use nukes to stave off losing their power, possibly even to destroy Israel. With N. Korea we are still at war with them, shots are still fired on the DMZ, people are kidnapped, and it's crazy. I think the great leader would love to give us a nuclear black eye on his death bed. If it were up to me I'd rather see us come together as a nation, lose our interventionist legacy, and turn our efforts inward, bringing this nation back to it's classical liberal roots, where individual freedom meant everything, rather than trying to export Jeffersonian democracy to people that don't want it while slashing the rights I for one hold dear. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Grant [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile That's what it alwaysls down to isn't it? US can do what it wants regardless of what the rest of world says. You'll convince yourself that no matter how many bad things you do it's for altruistic reasons and for the greater good. Anyone that doesn't like what the US does is just jealous. And anyone that doesn't like the US or that tries to do the same is evil and must be stopped. Starts with "H" and ends with "ypocrisy." On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hater. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Grant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile > > > Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But > since > most everyone else has them (despite the fact they were supposed to have > been dismantled) I think it levels the playing field. Don't forget the US > is > the only country that's ever used them. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You were the one who brought your belief into this by statign that you > > think > > they actaully launched a satellite. > > > > You mean western nations like China, India and Pakistan? > > > > I bet you think its a good idea for Iran to have nuclear weapons too. > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What I believe and don't believe isn't the issue. Do I think N.Korea > (or > > > any > > > other other sovereign nation) should have the same rights as western > > > nations? Yup. > > > > > > I think it's cute that you see the world as the "good guys" and the > "bad > > > guys." Guess what, the difference between the two is how effective the > > > propaganda is. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I thinks its cute that you believe that. Probably the only one on > earth > > > who > > > > does. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > N.Korea launched a satelite into orbit. We do it all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Scott Stroz > > > > --------------- > > > > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who > are > > > > willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > > > http://xkcd.com/386/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:294044 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
