I have said more than once on this list that I think we should pull all our troops home, close all our borders to immigrants and hang out a sign that tells the world "We will get back to you as soon as we get our own house in order "
On 4/5/09, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Actually you haven't been around that long, at least not to read my old > anti-government treatises, and my libertarian rants. I rarely get involved > in these discussions anymore because they get to me and I say awful things > that I don't really mean and normal people don't know how to take that. > > I personally am an isolationist and a nationalist. I don't think we should > have started the war in Iraq, although at the time like most I did agree > with it. I do however subscribe to the "we broke it we bought" it > mentality. I also think it would be a travesty to emotionally abandon > another generation of soldiers like we did with Vietnam. Any withdrawal has > to be on our own terms. With Afghanistan, no, they attacked us, Al Queda > and the Taliban were so interlinked that they may have well have been the > same organization at higher levels. Now that they have moved mainly into > Pakistan we need to follow them and deny them the areas they use to refit > rest and rearm. > > Iran has been actively killing Americans and our allies the world over since > the 1970s, we could, and maybe should, have declared war on them several > times. I think the mullahs, the real leaders of that country, would use > nukes to stave off losing their power, possibly even to destroy Israel. > > With N. Korea we are still at war with them, shots are still fired on the > DMZ, people are kidnapped, and it's crazy. I think the great leader would > love to give us a nuclear black eye on his death bed. > > If it were up to me I'd rather see us come together as a nation, lose our > interventionist legacy, and turn our efforts inward, bringing this nation > back to it's classical liberal roots, where individual freedom meant > everything, rather than trying to export Jeffersonian democracy to people > that don't want it while slashing the rights I for one hold dear. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Grant [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:11 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile > > > That's what it alwaysls down to isn't it? US can do what it wants regardless > of what the rest of world says. You'll convince yourself that no matter how > many bad things you do it's for altruistic reasons and for the greater > good. Anyone that doesn't like what the US does is just jealous. And anyone > that doesn't like the US or that tries to do the same is evil and must be > stopped. Starts with "H" and ends with "ypocrisy." > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hater. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Grant [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile >> >> >> Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But >> since >> most everyone else has them (despite the fact they were supposed to have >> been dismantled) I think it levels the playing field. Don't forget the US >> is >> the only country that's ever used them. >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > You were the one who brought your belief into this by statign that you >> > think >> > they actaully launched a satellite. >> > >> > You mean western nations like China, India and Pakistan? >> > >> > I bet you think its a good idea for Iran to have nuclear weapons too. >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > What I believe and don't believe isn't the issue. Do I think N.Korea >> (or >> > > any >> > > other other sovereign nation) should have the same rights as western >> > > nations? Yup. >> > > >> > > I think it's cute that you see the world as the "good guys" and the >> "bad >> > > guys." Guess what, the difference between the two is how effective the >> > > propaganda is. >> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > I thinks its cute that you believe that. Probably the only one on >> earth >> > > who >> > > > does. >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > N.Korea launched a satelite into orbit. We do it all the time. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Scott Stroz >> > > > --------------- >> > > > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who >> are >> > > > willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson >> > > > >> > > > http://xkcd.com/386/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:294047 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
