Oh, so now I'm stubborn, am I?

So what's the criteria for being stubborn? Disagreeing with you?


H.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:35 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
>
>
> I remember, I was part of that and have had enough
>
> I'm not knocking your faith, but sometimes being religeous makes
> people real
> real stubborn. Now thats not particulary a bad thing, since its enabled
> people to do fairly amazing things through history.  But when
> you're arguing
> religious "issues" with someone like that, it's painful.
>
> Hence, lets leave it at that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 29 April 2002 16:23
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
>
>
> I've already addressed this argument in some detail a couple of weeks ago.
>
> H.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:40 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> >
> >
> > i'm actually going to borrow phils argument here
> >
> > what about noah's flood?
> > the plague of eygpt?
> >
> > he decided to step in then and enforce his will, slaughtering thousands
> > including every first born child, were those people free?  Was
> > that not the
> > actions of a dictator?
> >
> > so sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.  But then again he's
> > God and can
> > do what he likes, right.  Sometimes we're slaves, sometimes we're
> > as free as
> > birds.  If there was some logic to when he interviened and when
> he doesn't
> > (apart from the times he interviened there is absolutely no
> > proof), I might,
> > might believe that argument.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 29 April 2002 15:08
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> >
> >
> > If God didn't allow it to happen, then he wouldn't be God, would
> > he. He'd be
> > a dictator and we'd all be his slaves instead of free, loved and loving
> > beings.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:20 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Jeff that theres no need whatever to apologise.
> > >
> > > I have children also, and the thought of other peoples children being
> > > murdered like this is heartraking.
> > >
> > > To be honest this sort of thing happening is why I gave up
> > > religeon, I can't
> > > believe God would allow this kind've thing to happen.
> > >
> > > well i'd better get some work done, but to be honest can't
> stop thinking
> > > about that poor family, is anything worth a childs death?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 28 April 2002 17:04
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> > >
> > >
> > > No need for apologies Judith... While I typically stay out of
> > many of the
> > > religious discussions, I do pray for peace in that region and I
> > > support what
> > > Israel is doing to protect their existence.  I'll second what
> > Ben said in
> > > that we may not always agree on "how" to achieve peace in the
> > > region, we all
> > > agree that peace must be achieved for the sake of all parties
> involved.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sorry for venting -- please just ignore it; I should not
> post stuff
> > > like this to the list.
> > >
> > > If you guys want to keep up with what's happening in Israel, you
> > > can always
> > > go the arutzsheva site (http://www.arutzsheva.org) and see for
> > yourself. I
> > > don't have to bombard you with news like this.
> > >
> > > Judith
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 
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