I certainly will read the article, thanks. And perhaps to your
chagrin, I have no problems believing that doctors are part of the
health care problem in the US. In fact, I've never said otherwise. The
bullshit about me supposedly thinking that all doctors are altruistic
saints was made out of whole cloth by you and Robert.

Cost containment is going to be part of any health care reform. It is
a rough fact of life. Determining how that gets defined and
implemented is going to be a tough battle. I've seen doctors that are
more than happy to send in a lab request order for a patient that the
doctor doesn't really think is necessary just because the doctor wants
to make the patient happy by seeming to do something. We need a system
that discourages that sort of behavior while not simultaneously
preventing useful diagnostic procedures that help successfully ferret
out the hard to find edge cases. That's no mean feat.

I am glad, however, that you are finally reading something with
numbers in it as opposed to hand waving and personal stories. Of
course blithely then saying that Doctors are 90% of the problem and
not bothering to justify it at all would seem to be some back sliding.
Still, one can hope that there might be some rational, fact based
debate to be had.

Just don't become Narrative Man in this discussion Gruss.

Judah

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Gruss Gott<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Judah wrote:
>>
>> For those that like data in addition to their anecdotes
>
> Read the article Judah.  It's chock full of facts, numbers, and other errata.
>
> But it tells the story you don't want to hear: it's the doctors

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