Let's start with your definition of a framework.

On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:

>
> If you really cannot see that cfml is not a framework,
> not really sure anything I can say will change your mind.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> how can it not be a framework?  I can write Fusebox 4 procedurally or
>> OO, I could use mvc or not, I could use custom tags or cfcs,  and I
>> consider that a framework.  You might say, well, CF is a
>> language....but is it really or is it more of a DSL specialized for
>> web applications...almost like a "Framework" :)
>>
>>
>> In essence though, aren't all web frameworks procedural? Sure, they
>> can have some aspects of OO about them, but at the very heart they
>> respond to requests in a procedural fashion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> cfml is not a framework..sorry...not even close
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, cfml is not a framework. As evidenced by the fact that you  
>>> can
>>> write cfml procedurally or OO, you can do everything in custom tags,
>>> you can mix presentation and business logic or separate them, on and
>>> on.
>>>
>>
>> As if freedom was a question of might
>> As if loyalty was black and white
>> You hear people say it all the time-
>> "My country wrong or right"
>> I want to know what that's got to do
>> With what it takes to find out what's true
>> With everyone from the President on down
>> Trying to keep it from you
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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