>I certainly didn't mean YOU the messenger, I meant that most Americans
(and >we are talking about the big-gulp warehouse store buying general
public, >here) have a deep, instant dislike to ANYONE telling them what
they SHOULD >do.

I think that goes for anybody, doesn't matter where they shop, what they
drink or what they drive

>I agree. But most people don't. They don't care about the trees. Or the
>fish. Or about the person in the car in front of them. They just don't.

I care.  Ask my wife I have slammed on the brakes more than once to move
a turtle out of the road. :)  They are my favorites.  I always try to
help hurt animals or the like.  Of course I fish to, and boy are they
tasty fried up in drakes.


>For example, most SUV owners you ask will say they are safer.
Statistics >absolutely prove this is wrong. I don't even have an airbag.

I think you might want to reexamine those statistics. I'll find some for
you, but common sense tells me when I look at a SUV and if it hits a
Dodge Neon, who is going to win?  



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/02 05:11PM >>>
> I own a Jeep, but I own a bike and a pair of shoes.
>
> I try to use all of them in their proper time and place.

Note that I have no problem with SUVs - they are useful vehicles. My
beef is
with the Proud and Wasteful consumers.

> As for the "typical American" attitude towards the environment, I
think
that is almost as much due to the messenger as the message.

LOL, Jerry, one of your fellow Americans (and mine) just said that More
is
the American Way, proudly, so its not just me that thinks so.

> I think there is a knee-jerk response to most attempts to force
environmental concerns down people's throats.

The point is that folks should care without having them forced down
their
throats.

> As soon as environmentally friendly products are as useful and as
cheap as
their "dirty" counterparts, people will switch in droves.

Not really - the vehicle trend now is towards ridiculously large.  How
many
people need all the room a suburban has?

> Asking people to give up their way of living for "the greater good" I
feel
is not taking basic human nature into account.

I think then, we need to overcome our basic human nature and teach our
kids
to care about each other and the planet.

> And we need to start selling environmentally friendly products as
PRODUCTS, and not tacking on a politically-correct "green" tax.

What specifically are you speaking to here?



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