jerry if you need help let me know, I have a couple of stats packages that would be usefull.
larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:09 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > I don't really trust either. > > I just happened to have the CNN browser window open to it as > I read your message, so it seemed appropriate to pass along. > > But I do know that in the three short years I lived in > Portland OR, the smog there got worse (fewer days each year I > could see more than 1 big mountain from there.), and now that > I returned to the East coast, I really notice the poor air > quality around here. (I didn't notice before I moved out into > the western clean air, so I assume I will reacclimate to the > thick ugly air again) > > But I am going to crunch those weather station numbers within > the next few weeks. That is very interesting news. > > Thanks for the info. > Jerry Johnson > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/01/02 09:48AM >>> > I tend to look at the source. Numbers can be twisted one way or the > other we all know this. So who's study do you lend more weight to, a > Political Action Group, or the EPA. I tend to, believe it or > not, trust > the Government here. The EPA isn't trying to get Congress to approve > legislation. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:45 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > Of course, then there is this... > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/05/01/bad.air/index.html > > About half of all Americans live in areas where levels of smog are > unhealthy, the American Lung Association said in a report released > Wednesday. > > The annual "state of the air" study, which crunches government data on > ozone, smog's main ingredient, finds more than 142 million Americans > live in areas where ozone levels could endanger people's health. > > "We have found there actually has been an increase of 18 > percent in the > areas that are rated "F" -- which is unhealthy, and that's a result of > failure to take action over the last several years," said > John Kirkwood, > a spokesman for the group. > > According to the report, the five smoggiest metropolitan areas: > > Los Angeles, California; Bakersfield, California; Fresno, California; > Visalia, California; and Houston, Texas. > > > Jerry Johnson > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/02 10:48PM >>> > The oil dependency argument is a myth, which is why the Saudis made it > clear > that they won't use oil as a weapon -- the know it won't > work. It didn't > work in the 1970s and it won't work now, especially now since > world oil > reserves are larger and more diverse now than 30 years ago. As for > running > out of oil any time soon -- see my earlier link I posted > about oil field > recharging and this: > http://sepwww.stanford.edu/sep/jon/world-oil.dir/lynch/worldoil.html > > As for pollution: > > Actually, pollution has decreased ... this from the EPA: > > "Nationally, air quality concentration data taken from thousands of > monitoring stations across the country has continued to show > improvement > since the 1980's for CO, Pb, NO2, O3, PM, and SO2. In fact, all the > years > throughout the 1990's have shown better air quality than any of the > years in > the 1980's. This steady trend of improvement resulted despite the fact > that > weather conditions in the 1990's were generally more > conducive to higher > pollution levels, such as ground-level ozone formation." > http://www.epa.gov/air/aqtrnd97/brochure/highlts.html > > So, as there have been more and more SUVs there has been less and less > pollution. > > Again, political correctness speaks out and falls short of the facts. > > H. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:42 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > > > > My definition of an Energy Crisis: a society dependent on > energy that > is > > provided from an area plagued with war and religious fanatics. > > Dependent on > > energy that could quite possibly be turned off like a light switch. > > > > And yes, your SUV does directly affect me. I don't have any > scientific > > evidence on hand, but common sense tells me that a vehicle > which burns > a > > significantly higher amount of fuel will also emit a higher > amount of > > pollution. We DO know that combusting fossil fuels causes pollution > right? > > This is pollution that we all have to breath. I myself > prefer oxygen. > > Another way that it directly affects me is right from my paycheck. > Your > > vehicle causes more damage to the roads and creates more traffic. > > Guess who > > pays Buck to sit on his ass on the weekends, making double-time, to > "work" > > on those roads? > > > > Again, the last thing I want are more laws that restrict you from > > being the > > true american you so desire to be, but don't think I'm not going > > to call you > > a gluttonous ass for choking my friends and giving our country a bad > > image... just because you want to. > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:15 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > > > > > > > Energy crisis? Where? Gas is dirt cheap now? $1.29 a > gallon? I am > > > considerate for others. I don't cut people off, or run them over. > > > Whether I choose to drive a suburban or an insight has no > > > direct affect > > > on you. > > > > > > There is big difference, littering is illegal, driving a > suburban is > > > not, at least not yet anyway. Give the environmentalists time > though. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:05 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > > > > Kevin, the last thing I want to do is restrict you from > being a true > > > american or whatever. All I'm saying is that people > should try to be > > > considerate for others. You know that your vehicle choice affects > > > others. > > > You may not care about the energy crisis that is just now > > > beginning, but > > > others might. > > > > > > When I go camping, I know I probably won't get caught if > I leave my > > > garbage > > > all over; but in consideration for others, I choose to > clean it all > up > > > anyway. > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:50 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > > > > > > > > > > "And this seems to me a responsible use for the vehicle." > > > > > > > > Nothing personal, but who made you the authority on > deeming what's > > > > responsible and what's not? I use my Explorer (wife has > > > the Suburban) > > > > for my daily commute. I don't consider it irresponsible. > > > > Sure I could > > > > make the same commute in a tin can but I choose to drive that > > > > car. The > > > > beauty of American, freedom of choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:50 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee > > > > > > > > > I remember Beth, when you were all over me about taking > > > my truck to > > > > the > > > > > UK, but it's a tie to my old life, not an ego thing with me > > > > ... I love > > > > > my truck like I love my pets. You may think this is really > > > > scary, but > > > > I > > > > > actually pet my truck and give it occasional hugs. My wheels > have > > > > always > > > > > had a very special meaning in my life, they mean my > independence. > > > > > > > > LOL! I know this about you, and I understand this, although > > > > I only hug > > > > and > > > > talk to my bikes. I do occasionally pet the car when the dog > > > > has taken > > > > a > > > > particularly large chunk out of the upholstery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure it's big, and extravagant, but it's mine. Or, mine > > > and Philip's > > > > > now. :) And since mass transit is so easy, I'll be saving > > > > hundreds of > > > > > dollars in gas bills, keeping the truck just for outiings. > > > > > > > > And this seems to me a responsible use for the vehicle. > > > > > > > > As I said, I have no problem with folks owning SUV's - I own > > > > one too. I > > > > do > > > > have problems with folks poopoohing the environmental issues > > > > our country > > > > faces and I do think that bragging over whose SUV is bigger > > > > is incredbly > > > > stupid....and incredibly AMERICAN!! > > > > > > > > But you aren't of the sort. None of that was directed at you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
