So, you think the solution to discrimination is to discriminate against those who initially perpetrated the discrimination?
I disagree with the defensibility of the logic and reason behind it. If discrimination was bad before, it should be bad now, regardless of which side is getting discriminated against. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Gruss Gott<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Scott wrote: >> So, to be clear, it would be bad for me to get a job solely because I >> am white, but its good if I don't get a job solely because I am white? >> Is that what you are saying? > > Yes, that's what *I'm* saying. > >> If it is wrong for a person to not get a job because they are not >> white, it is equally wrong, in my opinion, for someone to not get a >> job because they are white. Pin as many big words on it as you like, >> its discrimination. >> > > Yes, it's discrimination. Discrimination with defensible logic and > reason behind it, like discriminating of the basis of being able to do > a job, but discrimination nonetheless. > > But, again, you simply have to decide if you think any skin color (or > gender) discrimination has taken place on a systematic level. > > If you do, then you need to define what you think the drivers are. > > Once you're defined the drivers, you can decide on your solutions. > > Personally I do think there *was* systemic discrimination, I think the > drivers were in part as stated above, and I think Affirmative Action > dismantles those drivers. > > Further, as an end-to-end program I'm not sure Affirmative Action is > needed any longer, but that doesn't mean it's not needed in certain > areas. > > I think it's helped us to progress to a place just behind Europe: now > we have to figure out how we integrate families into our work lives. > > Physically women must bear that burden, but our workplace has yet to > truly accomodate this. > > It's why you see women as 50% of law graduates but less than 10% of > law partners. They decided to have families which essentially takes > them off the partner track. Same is true with tenured professors > amongst other professions. > > (note: those number are off the top of my head and may be inaccurate. > please feel free to correct them > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:300603 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
