Since when did facts ever enter into any of our discussions here? Kill joy.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: > > for the record, I heard today that Calley did express regret recently at a > Kiwanis meeting. I was thinking, Kiwanis?? Apart from that, some of the > details in the piece (Democracy Now) were pretty hard to listen to and might > give me nightmares. I am not particularly in favor of the Lockerbie guy's > release, tho as mentioned, some people think he is innocent or at least the > fall guy. Just throwing a few facts into the mix. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> You say that killing 284 innocent civilians in an aircraft is terrorism and >> beyond the pale. What about torturing, raping, mutilating and killing almost >> 500 innocent civilians who were asleep in their villages. >> >> Is there something about aircraft that makes them special? Or is it as you >> claim the other atrocities (My Lai and Song My) occurred 40 years ago. >> >> OK you've just put a time limit on atrocity. So the next question is that >> should we still be pursuing those who participated in the Holocaust? That >> long horror happened over 60 years ago. Should we have deported John >> Demjanjuk to Germany to face over 27,000 counts of accessory to murder for >> his actions at the Sobibor extermination camp? Or because his actions during >> the holocaust happened in the 1940's he should have been left alone living a >> good life. >> >> OK if there is a difficulty involving the length of time, what about >> Baugram in 2001, the Qala-I-Janghi fortress the same year, or Haditha in >> 2004? In these situations the Americans who were found to have been involved >> in these atrocities have either gone free or had their sentences commuted. >> Or is 7 and 5 years too long a time. >> >> Aside from Americans committing the atrocities on non Americans in those >> cases and a non American blowing up a civilian airliner in the other, what >> are differences? >> >> And yes where is the compassion for the victims? Either we treat all the >> same, or are there special circumstances because Americans are involved - >> either as victims or as perpetrators. In other words if an American was >> responsible for the death of hundreds of people he ought to be treated >> differently than a Libyan who did the same? >> >> The point I'm making is what is the moral difference between the two? >> You're willing to see a dying man stay in jail, yet let another man go free, >> even though the crime is the same. >> >> I do not understand the difference here. >> >> >> >Larry, I think you are just wrong on this one. >> > >> >He should not have been released. >> > >> >Terrorism, killing 240 innocent people by blowing up a civilian passenger >> >plane, is beyond the pale. >> > >> >Where is the compassion for the victims' families? >> > >> >Things that happened 40 years ago are not relevant, nor is the treatment >> of >> >prisoners during the War of the Roses. >> > >> >Relativism in this case is not useful. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:302542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
