To throw my $.02 in..

They did a story on the Today Show this AM, they showed the *ahem* weapon in
question, the knife portion did have a point, but didn’t appear to have an
edge....

More to the point, given these draconian rules, which in my opinion were
created to absolve the school administrators from having to make any kind of
common sense, case by case decisions, shouldn’t parents err on the side of
caution, in most cases? IE If you think that it might violate a rule, lave
it at home.

I'm saying most cases for a reason, my old master instructor got dragged in
front of the Fairfax County School Board, because he was teaching students,
with the parents knowledge and permission, that it was OK to defend
themselves if attacked in school. This was a direct violation of Fairfax
County's zero tolerance policy on fighting in school. According to the
school board a child, if attacked in school had two options:

1. find an administrator (read: run)
2. take it (read: get beaten up and then find an administrator)

Otherwise both parties were suspended no investigation, no hearings,
nothing.

He was defending his practices after one of his TKD students was attacked,
and defended himself, from another student carrying a baseball bat.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:50 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: This is what happens when we throw out common sense


The knife was in his hand and was confiscated as he exited the school
bus, so, it was neither concealed, nor carried in school.

Again, I equate this to the TSA checkpoint finding a banned item and
telling you that you cannot fly again for 45 days. Its ludicrous.

I have no issue with the policy of no knives in school, nor do I
really have a problem with them considering what he had to be a knife
(though, I think its s stretch). What I have a problem with is the
'HOLY SHIT!!! HE HAD A BUTTER KNIFE AND NOW HE NEEDS TO GO TO A REFORM
SCHOOL' kind of reaction. It would be different, in my mind, if the
kid got off the bus with a machete with intent to harm others.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Rick Root <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Again, there is a difference between a "girl scout knife" and a camping
utensil.
>>
>> The girl scout knife is probably sharp, pointed, and dangerous
>> (assuming girl scout knives are like boy scout knives)
>
> He had a boy scout knife.
>
>> A camping utensil with a flip out fork, spoon, and knife, is almost
>> certainly NOT sharp, nor pointed.  It's probably about as dangerous as
>> a plastic knife, and possibly less dangerous than a sharp pencil.
>>
>> And do you REALLY go through your daughters school bag every morning
>> to make sure she didn't put anything in it?  Do you check her pockets
>> too?  If so... more power to you.
>
> I pick out her clothes so I know the pockets are empty. I make her
> lunch and put it in her back pack and check that her homework is also
> in there.
> She doesn't have anything illegal to bring to school because I didn't
> give her the knife yet. I'm sure this kids parents knew about the
> knife and would have explained to a six year old the rules of our
> society and about carrying concealed knives in scho
>
> 



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