On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey <[email protected]> wrote:
> Again, you obviously have not studied the Bible very well, as this is quite 
> the opposite of its teachings. God never abandons us, it is we who are always 
> the ones that break away from him.
>

I think this is really on shaky grounds. Take Job for instance. God
lets Satan visit all manner of punishments upon his most obedient
servant to show how faithful he is. God was daring Job to renounce his
faith and stood aside while all he loved, family members included, was
destroyed even when Job pleaded. Was Job rewarded for his unwavering
faith? Eventually, it seems. Would God have forgiven him if his faith
had wavered? Tough to say in the Old Testament. Maybe. But God's "I've
got your back" was really weak and petty in my opinion and had
basically the same weight as someone who sins their whole life and has
a deathbed conversion. Get's in by a technicality maybe, but totally
weak.

>>If your son or daughter f's up bad, severs all ties to you
>>and acts like a general p.o.s. what are the chances you'll say "Oh
>>well, I tried"....probably minimal.  You're going to keep trying to
>>get you kid back on track and find them help.
>
> And that's exactly the God described in the Bible.

That is the God described in *some* of the Bible. You seem to be
glossing over most of the Old Testament. Yahweh was not a "give it
another go, I know you've got it in you kid" kind of guy in a lot of
the Old Testament. Ask Abraham after he was told to sacrifice a son.

> It's important to remember that the Christian theology is not that God 
> sacrificed his son...Jesus was God incarnate. Thus God was sacrificing 
> himself...just as a parent might sacrifice themselves to save their children 
> of having to go through the pain themselves. It's one of the central tenants 
> of Christianity and certainly one that is both challenging, and awe-inspiring 
> to understand.

And as a somewhat minor point of theology, not all Christians accept
the Trinity and of those that do, various sects interpret it in
different ways

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