well ok then. Should have read this before I demanded an actuary. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > GBS takes out people every year without any vaccinations. The > correlation with vaccination is very small. For seasonal flu > vaccinations, the additional cases of GBS seem to be about 1 case per > million vaccinations. For swine flue in 1976 the additional influence > seems to have been about 1 case per 100,000 vaccinations. It is true > that doctors do not know why that one year saw an additional rate of > GBS associated with the vaccinations. Subsequent vaccinations have not > produced any abnormal results. > > http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/gbs_qa.htm > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Mary Jo wrote: > >> Even *if* either of these statements is true (of course, you don't > provide links to any actual scientific data to support it since there is > none) > > > > I did provide the links: > > > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/03/What-We-Have-Learned-About-the-Great-Swine-Flu-Pandemic.aspx > > http://web.mac.com/rblaylock/Russell_Blaylock_M.D./Swine_Flu_Data.html > > > > And in 1976 thirty people died and 500 were crippled and that's why I > > can't get the vaccine; because those people died. > > > > Now granted many people have no (obvious) problem with things like > > squalene, but many do and some die. > > > > So isn't the real question whether or not the risk justifies injecting > > people with a potentially harmful substance? > > > > I don't think it does, but here's another question: > > > > Can you explain specifically how this new untested H1N1 vaccine is > > materially different from the 1976 version? > > > > In December 1976 it was decided that the vaccine was more dangerous > > than the flu it was trying to prevent. > > > > Do you think that was a bad call? > > > > And either way, what criteria are you using to justify injecting > > people with these substances? > > > > Here's more info: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Flu_Outbreak > > > > The 1976 swine flu outbreak, also known as the swine flu fiasco, or > > the swine flu debacle, was a strain of H1N1 influenza virus that > > appeared in 1976. > > > > Alarmed public-health officials decided that action must be taken to > > head off another major pandemic, and they urged President Gerald Ford > > that every person in the U.S. be vaccinated for the disease. The > > vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations > > problems, but about 24% of the population had been vaccinated by the > > time the program was canceled. > > > > There were reports of Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralyzing > > neuromuscular disorder, affecting some people who had received swine > > flu immunizations. One of the causes of this syndrome could be a rare > > side-effect of modern influenza vaccines, with an incidence of about > > one case per million vaccinations.[2] As a result, Di Justo writes > > that "the public refused to trust a government-operated health program > > that killed old people and crippled young people." In total, less than > > 33 percent of the population had been immunized by the end of 1976. > > The National Influenza Immunization Program was effectively halted on > > December 16. > > > > Overall, about 500 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), resulting > > in death from severe pulmonary complications for 25 people, were > > possibly caused by an immunopathological reaction to the 1976 > > vaccine[citation needed]. Other influenza vaccines have not been > > linked to Guillain-Barré syndrome, though caution is advised for > > certain individuals, particularly those with a history of GBS.[3][4] > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:307068 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
