OK, so we do not trust anything the US says, but trust everything
Chavez says? Got it.

I know, he is not a bad guy, he is just misunderstood. He did not get
enough attention from his father growing up, just like Ahmadinejad.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> No he has not.
>
> Chavez has said repeatedly that he wants peace and fair dealings with the
> United States.
> He has repeated it at the recently concluded heads of commonwealth meeting
> when he met Obama publicly.
>
> The man appeared on 60 Minutes and said the same thing again.
>
> He was FIRMLY against George Bush and the imperialisitic and expansionist
> policies of the US.If you knew even a little of the history of Latin America
> you would have little to no grounds to argue against the exploitation of
> Latin America by the US, and the hardships caused by its interference in the
> region's affairs.
>
> He is also against The US treatment of Cuba.
>
> But he has helped US Citizens where he can and when he can.In many instances
> more than its other allies, and more than its own government.
>
> He has made great strides in arresting Drug Traffickers and attempting to
> stem the flow of drugs from within Venzeula and the traffic of drugs through
> that country.
>
> And he is a Democratically elected leader. The same Democracy that the US
> implemented by force in other countries,
> is the same Democracy they now choose not to recognise when it does not suit
> them.
>
> You seem to know some of the other side to the other stories, such as the
> Foreign companies etc.
> There are two sides to every story, and what you should have learnt by now
> is that you NEVER trust the view put forward by the US government.
> Look at what the other independent agencies, other US Allies etc. are saying
> first.
>
> And the only ones vilifying Chavez in this manner is the United States.
>
> And Chavez is no saint, and I don't agree with several of his
> decisions....but on this specific issue I don't agree with the US position.
>
> 2009/11/10 Jerry Johnson <[email protected]>
>
>>
>> I disagree that there is no basis in reality.
>>
>> HE has made it clear, by his actions and rhetoric, where he falls on the
>> friend/enemy scale. Who started it is moot at this point. We are on
>> opposite
>> teams, by his choice as much as ours.
>>
>> He has stolen billions of dollars of foreign company ownership. Rightly or
>> wrongly (I will admit there is some basis to the complaints against those
>> companies), the way he did it is anathema to the "American Way".
>>
>> His anti-media laws are not compatible with the idea of freedom of the
>> press
>> (or freedom)
>>
>> He is an avowed Socialist and Marxist. We don't like them good.
>>
>> Plus, he attempted to overthrow his government by organizing a military
>> coup.
>>
>> Is he as bad as some of our "friends"? No. Is he a good guy in my eyes? No.
>> Is he potentially dangerous to his neighbors? Yeah, I think so.
>>
>>
>
>
> 

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