frankly I don't care about your lame opinions and your advocacy of
pseudo science.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't care about your red herring ;)
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> What valid evidence that this facilitated communication works, or is
>> it just a function of the facilitator's expectations? The data are
>> very clear on that, facilitated communication is bogus science. Its
>> nothing more than what the so called facilitator thinks, for a summary
>> of the research that demonstrates that, see,
>> http://tinyurl.com/yzugd5f.
>>
>> As for the insults you do appear to use them when you cannot
>> demonstrate your point.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > we should just trust you, right? Cause you know. And we should have faith
>> in
>> > you ;)
>> >
>> > I'd almost feel bad for how ridiculous you sound, except that you did it
>> to
>> > yourself ::shrug::
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You really need to read up on why facilitated communication isn't. I'm
>> >> not going to rehash the old tired story, except to say that its been
>> >> shown that facilitated communication isn't. From the videos I've seen
>> >> of the guy, more than half the time he isn't even looking at the
>> >> keyboard or screen. Enough said. Unlike some on this list I do not
>> >> follow faith based science.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > he can't accept that answer because it was family members in the other
>> >> case
>> >> > also.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Michael Grant <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For me the fact that it's family members, and more than one, I think
>> >> adds a
>> >> >> certain degree of credibility to it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> [email protected]
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm quite skeptical of this case. Its great that the man was able
>> to
>> >> >> > be rediagnosed as locked-in syndrom rather than minimally aware
>> >> >> > syndrome or being in a peristant vegitative state. But other than
>> that
>> >> >> > there may be no great change. He still cannot communicate in any
>> >> >> > meaningful way. It would appear that all the communication is being
>> >> >> > done through a "facilitator."
>> >> >> > (http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/091201-coma-victim.html).
>> How
>> >> >> > do we know whether its the patient or the so-called speach
>> facilitator
>> >> >> > who is communicating?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I saw a doc on this recently. Can you imagine the frustration
>> that
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> > > cause. Perfectly functioning brain combined with total paralysis.
>> I
>> >> >> > > shudder to think of how awful that would be.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Vivec <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Actually...did anyone read about that guy who was in a coma for
>> 15
>> >> >> > >> years supposedly braindead, but with new methods they recently
>> >> found
>> >> >> > >> that his brain was quite active, and for those 15 years he knew
>> >> what
>> >> >> > >> was going on around him?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> 2009/12/6 Dana <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> >>Your accusation is quite interesting considering this is
>> coming
>> >> from
>> >> >> > >> >>someone who thinks its ok to keep someone who's brain has
>> rotted
>> >> >> away
>> >> >> > >> >>alive by artificial means
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > bla bla bla.... no evidence needed for you on that one.....
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >> in a form of half life does make me want to
>> >> >> > >> >>puke. What next have anyone who does have a living will
>> >> persecuted?
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
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>> >> >>
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>> >> >
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