ok so I suggest that you read the original journal article, and that's pseudo science? But you don't "use insults" as you so articulately put it?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > frankly I don't care about your lame opinions and your advocacy of > pseudo science. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't care about your red herring ;) > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> What valid evidence that this facilitated communication works, or is > >> it just a function of the facilitator's expectations? The data are > >> very clear on that, facilitated communication is bogus science. Its > >> nothing more than what the so called facilitator thinks, for a summary > >> of the research that demonstrates that, see, > >> http://tinyurl.com/yzugd5f. > >> > >> As for the insults you do appear to use them when you cannot > >> demonstrate your point. > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > we should just trust you, right? Cause you know. And we should have > faith > >> in > >> > you ;) > >> > > >> > I'd almost feel bad for how ridiculous you sound, except that you did > it > >> to > >> > yourself ::shrug:: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> You really need to read up on why facilitated communication isn't. > I'm > >> >> not going to rehash the old tired story, except to say that its been > >> >> shown that facilitated communication isn't. From the videos I've seen > >> >> of the guy, more than half the time he isn't even looking at the > >> >> keyboard or screen. Enough said. Unlike some on this list I do not > >> >> follow faith based science. > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > he can't accept that answer because it was family members in the > other > >> >> case > >> >> > also. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> For me the fact that it's family members, and more than one, I > think > >> >> adds a > >> >> >> certain degree of credibility to it. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > >> [email protected] > >> >> >> >wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I'm quite skeptical of this case. Its great that the man was > able > >> to > >> >> >> > be rediagnosed as locked-in syndrom rather than minimally aware > >> >> >> > syndrome or being in a peristant vegitative state. But other > than > >> that > >> >> >> > there may be no great change. He still cannot communicate in any > >> >> >> > meaningful way. It would appear that all the communication is > being > >> >> >> > done through a "facilitator." > >> >> >> > (http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/091201-coma-victim.html > ). > >> How > >> >> >> > do we know whether its the patient or the so-called speach > >> facilitator > >> >> >> > who is communicating? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected] > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > I saw a doc on this recently. Can you imagine the frustration > >> that > >> >> >> would > >> >> >> > > cause. Perfectly functioning brain combined with total > paralysis. > >> I > >> >> >> > > shudder to think of how awful that would be. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> Actually...did anyone read about that guy who was in a coma > for > >> 15 > >> >> >> > >> years supposedly braindead, but with new methods they > recently > >> >> found > >> >> >> > >> that his brain was quite active, and for those 15 years he > knew > >> >> what > >> >> >> > >> was going on around him? > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> 2009/12/6 Dana <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >>Your accusation is quite interesting considering this is > >> coming > >> >> from > >> >> >> > >> >>someone who thinks its ok to keep someone who's brain has > >> rotted > >> >> >> away > >> >> >> > >> >>alive by artificial means > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > bla bla bla.... no evidence needed for you on that one..... > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> in a form of half life does make me want to > >> >> >> > >> >>puke. What next have anyone who does have a living will > >> >> persecuted? > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
