Ayn Rand has a lot to answer for. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think what it does is support both of our points. > > I think you and I will continue to differ on that. I'll take this > thread in a little bit different direction... I really think at it's > root it's a "free will" vs "destiny" argument. > > I feel very strongly that people have free will and that decisions you > make (particularly early in life) can greatly impact your life years > later. That someone's decision to cheat on taxes or to hang out with > a bunch or radicals will effect their life in dramatically negative > ways. I tend to look at a person's decision to involve themselves > with radicals as the force that made them the way they are, not what > the radicals did to the person. That it is still the individual's own > life choices that lead them to their place in life. > > On the other hand - I think that you tend to believe that outside > forces direct you in life. That hanging out with radicals was not the > driving reason someone becomes radicalized or does something terrible. > That it is really the fault of the radicals when someone ends up > flying into a building - not the individual who potentially chose very > early in life to enter into a relationship with them. > > Further, (and this really goes outside the thread) I think that you > tend to believe that it is the government's role as protector to help > guide people to their destiny where I tend to believe that it is the > individual's role to do that. > > Granted this whole discussion does leave out things like genetics, > disease, race, family, and other things that may influence your life > in ways that are not a personal choice. > > This is really not an argument, just a description of how I have > internally shape my picture of our different viewpoints on a number of > things discussed on this list. > > -Cameron > > ... > >
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