Yep!

I hate the CAL idea. 

With Exchange its a real pain, each mailbox is a separate CAL. 

SQL I believe ships with 5 CALs per Server (1 Processor).

I recently found out you need CAL's for Windows 2000 Server also.

So if you have a Domain controller with Exchange and SQL on it serving 40
domain users some with multiple mailbox's and 2 CF servers plus 2 DBA's and
and and.....

Twice at Sprint I called Microsoft about Licensing and got 2 different
answers. I was told that I did not need a license for development servers by
one, and told I did by another. So they don't even know. Then later told by
an "MCSE" that I don't need a license for development as long as it was from
the TechNet Library sent out to MCSE's.

I just wish they would cut out all the legal garbage and tell us exactly
point blank what it is.

But until then I am going with this

Development Servers No Licensing.
SQL Server License for processors
SQL Cal 1 for each CF server, 1 for each DBA
Win2K WEB server 1 for each processor, 1 CAL for IIS cover all users because
they only connect through a web browser. 1 CALL for each Administrator, user
or backup operator.

Does CF require a CAL?

I am probably wrong on this but that's what they said (one time or another)


Rick


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question


Yes.  That would be the treatment that I was alluding to.  Anyone else feel
bent over and rode hard by Microsoft's new licensing policies?

Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question


Jeff-

Have you seen the bank tv commercial with the customers' barcodes on their
foreheads?

-Ben



At 12:16 PM 5/10/02 -0700, you wrote:
>I was targeted for the staple on method for my barcode... <G>  Was very
>pleasant indeed.
>
>Jeff
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:58 AM
>Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question
>
>
>And they brand you with a barcode as well?
>
>Make sense though, and I'm not the one paying the bill at the end of the
>day.  Better safe than sorry.
>
>Again, thanks for the info!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:29 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question
>
>
>Be Careful with this configuration.  You really need a per processor
license
>for any sql box that will be hit by account concentrators (middleware
>applications).  Our licensing rep went through the roof when she found out
>we were using per seat configurations for our web boxes...  Yes it costs
>more but it keeps the BSA/SPA off your butt.
>
>HTH,
>
>Jeff Garza
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:48 AM
>Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question
>
>
>That's what I needed to know - thanks very much for the quick response!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:45 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question
>
>
>1 for each CF server and 1 for you to connect with Enterprise Manager.
>
>Rick Eidson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:43 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Stupid Stupid SQL server question
>
>
>I'm setting up an account at RackSpace, and they need to know how many CALs
>I'll need for our instance of SQL server.  This SQL server box will be
>responding to requests from two Cold Fusion 5.0 boxen which are running
>around a dozen hosted sites each.
>
>Bottom line - does each instance of CF count as one CAL?  Or is it each
>domain, or each server?  Need answer soon!!!
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>(with a "c")
>
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