That's damn amusing. You start by baselessly accusing Democrats of
trying to ruin healthcare device manufacturers by imposing an unfair
$20 billion excise tax on them. When I point out that those very
companies were involved in the negotiations and agreed to that $20
billion you are now saying that it should have been $40 billion?

Personally, I think that Pharma and the Medical Device manufacturers
got a pretty sweet deal out of the whole thing. I've long said that
Obama is a corpratist Democrat. He sought to bring them in early,
negotiate and lock their support in early. I'm glad that he is the
sort that does bring people to the table and negotiate, corporations
included, though I would have appreciated him driving a harder
bargain.

Obama is a centrist. A lot of the ideas in this bill came from
Republicans originally and the result is quite corporation friendly.
That's the reality of Washington DC, they don't tend to do giant
reform in big chunks and especially without the help of their
corporate friends. If this bill had really been written by the left,
you would have seen debate about a Single Payer system and getting rid
of the Fee for Service model in healthcare. Instead, you got the
weakened left pushing for a weakened "public option" that they didn't
even achieve, an individual mandate that was proposed by Chuck
Grassley and excise tax deals done with Pharma and AMTA.

It is a major victory that anything got done at all. The actual
contents of the deal? Meh, pretty middle of the road and very
incrementalist. Still, I'm quite happy that it got done. It is a
starting point.

Judah

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So it was the latter?
>
> So they're happy it went form $40b starting 2010 to only $20b starting 2014
> You have strange heroes.
>
> Reading this article I get the sense big pharma is happy as pigs in
> shit being the government is paying for everything. Kinda like who
> cares if there's a tax if it's free anyway? It is free right,
> someone's kid's going to pay for my stuff?
>
> http://www.njbiz.com/article-multiple/80958-health-reform-a-bittersweet-pill-for-medical-device-makers
>

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