I have to agree with Scott here, not with the law, as written it sounds far too draconian and open to abuse.
We aren't supposed to be a society that checks its papers and answers to big brother. I believe we need real border security. I'm wishy washy on a guest worker visa program. One that allows a long term migration to citizenship if chosen, but can be used for workers to come here and be documented and do jobs that quite honestly many Americans simply will not work. Please be aware I say this while working right now as a ten dollar an hour laborer on a BRAC/Stimulus program starting the 1st. I think immigration is an issue that is tied to so many different things. Voting patterns, employment, culture, drugs, gangs, I mean the list is endless. We need a way to protect ourselves, and our culture. Allow for immigration to occur, ensure we are only allowing in only those people we choose or that meet our standards, and still do so in a way that protects the freedoms and liberties of both Americans and immigrants. By our culture I want to be clear I do not mean this ethnically or racially, but in respect to our culture of individual liberty, freedom and equality, private property, and a primarily free economy; with the attendant protestant work ethic (I do not mean this in a religious manner as I'm an agnostic) and responsibilities. We do need to recognize we are a primarily western country in some way. I think English should be our official language for dealings with government. I don't think this should ever be enforced in the private sector in any way. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:10 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Closing the border On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > I have more > scorn for someone that steals a car stereo because they are bored or > it looks cool than I do for someone that shop lifts to pick up food > for their kids. Both things are illegal. I have more moral problems > with the first than I do the second, however. Do you know what they call a person who shop lifts to feed their family? A thief. Is it OK if they steal a car stereo, sell it and then use that money to buy food to feed their family? Its the same motivation, just slightly different crime. > But if they are otherwise law abiding, working hard, trying to make it in a > tough world, then I don't see how they are really doing all that much > damage to the social compact. Should someone who killed a pedophile not even be arrested because they did not do much damage to the 'social compact' (You could even argue that they did some good) Using your example above, of a 'law abiding' illegal immigrant (which is an oxymoron), would you be OK with them being arrested for tax evasion? If they work here, and do not pay taxes, nor report that income, it is a crime. The mere fact that someone is here illegally makes it impossible for them to be 'law abiding'. They will not pay taxes. They will not report income to the IRS. They break the law every minute they are here. That is not someone I would call 'law abiding'. -- Scott Stroz --------------- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:316739 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
