"I also forgot to link to any case law on this particular matter, so I'll
direct your attention to United States vs Wong Kim Ark (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark ) in 1898 which
established that a man born in the United States to parents who were not
citizens (his parents were both Chinese nationals) was, indeed, a citizen by
his birth here.  This ruling is particularly germane as it came in challenge
to the Chinese Exclusion Act which
tried to prevent anyone of Chinese descent from becoming a citizen and
trying to keep all the Chinese out. Sound at all familiar?""

This case is particularly germane.  His parents were *legal* immigrants.



"That's quite the reach there Jerry. The American Indian example
specifically denies the automatic citizenship for someone born in the
territory because that person was born on a reservation that was, by law, a
sovereign nation."

You are entitled to your opinion.  I don't think it is a reach at all,
especially if you consider this line:

"no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction
thereof,' within the meaning of the first section of the Fourteenth
Amendment, than the children of subjects of any foreign government born
within the domain of that government, "

It also seems that you ignored this part:

Framer of the Fourteenth Amendments first section, John Bingham, said Sec.
1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes meant “*every human being born within the
jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any
foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a
natural born citizen.*”* If this statute merely reaffirmed the old common
law rule of citizenship by birth then the condition of the parents would be
entirely irrelevant.*

Notice that is a quote from the framer of the first section of the
amendment.


Here is some more if you have time to read it:

During the debates of the Fourteenth Amendment’s citizenship clause, both
its primary framers, Sen. Jacob Howard and Sen. Lyman Trumbull listened to
concerns of including such persons as Chinese, Mongolians, and Gypsies to
citizenship. *Additionally, Sen. Fessenden (co-chairman of the
Reconstruction Committee) raised the question of persons born of parents
from abroad temporarily in this country* - an issue he would not have raised
if Congress were merely reaffirming the common law doctrine - and of course,
the question of Indians.

Sen. Trumbull attempted to assure Senators that Indians were not “subject to
the jurisdiction” of the United States. Sen. Johnson argued that Sen.
Trumbull was in error in regards to the Indian’s not being under the
jurisdiction of the United States. *This must have raised concerns with
Howard because he strongly made it known that he had no intention whatsoever
to confer citizenship upon the Indians under his amendment, no matter if
born within or outside of their tribal lands.*

This is the complete opposite of your reservation argument.


Sen. Trumbull further restates the the goal of the language: “*It is only
those persons who come completely within our jurisdiction, who are subject
to our laws, that we think of making citizens…*” Note that Trumbull does not
say *temporarily within our jurisdiction,* but *completely within our
jurisdiction*.


So, if this amendment wasn't designed to give citizenship to undocumented
democrats, oops, I mean illegal aliens, then why was it written?  Look at
the date.  It was to make sure freed slaves became ci

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