You may be right. Most of the records I have say Rosecommon...but then again that could be just a census worker that assumed it was with an E. In any case when you Google with either, you get the same results ;-)
There is even a small town nearby called O'Beirne (which is my grandmother's family's name) According to a book I had found in the local library on Irish lineage, they were chieftains in the area and one of the ancient Irish lineages (according to this book) and looking backs several generations, it looks like they are involved in most of the rebellions and uprisings on the region. I guess I know where I got my rebellious nature from hehehe. I have census records on my great grandfather from Spring Valley, IL that show he was born in Rosecommon and I know his father and paternal great grandfather were both named Patrick (got that from my cousin...she has some records from her great grandfather (my great uncle)...another Patrick (go figure, and Irishman name Patrick hehehe). I dont have a clue as to how they got here...I haven't found any ship manifests with my grandfather or great grandfather's name on it yet. My Polish ancestors were Jewish (more precisely, Polish/Czechoslovakian/Lithuanian Jews). The problem is that they changed their name to Lucas when they came to the US and we have no idea what their name was in Poland. I also dont speak Polish, so that is another barrier. I am still working on some loose ends on my ancestry in the US and Canada. Once that is cleared up, I am going to go whole hog on researching my European roots. My father's paternal family, I have traced back into the early 1600's in Bohemian and Prussia. That was the easy one...someone had already found all that info for me and had it publicly posted on ancestry.com Eric -----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Apparently Arizona has its own Mullahs yeah? How far back can you take the Irish? We can't get beyond 1796 or so on my father's side. Most people barely know where their grandparents were from. For example, all we know about my mother's grandfather is that he got off a boat in Kingston Ontario -- and family legend does not specify which boat or from where in Ireland. Go try to trace an Irishman named William Moore ;) By the way I think it's Roscommon. Or something. Not Rosecommon though. The problem in Ireland is that they blew up the National Archives in the was for independence. I am not sure who "they" is and it doesn't matter; the records are gone. If the name is at all unusual you might have some success with central government records in Poland....Also, if they were Catholic the Church may haev records, but in Ireland they only recorded first names. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > The problem I have is that they changed their name to Lucas when they came > to the states, so I have no idea what their original name was in Poland. > None of my family knows it either My great great great grandmother's sister > lived in Montreal...I have her address even from Border crossing documents > that list 2 different last names. . So there are no records that documents > them going=g from Europe to the US (other than a couple of Canadian border > crossing docs when she went to visit her sister...which is where I got the > port of entry and the name of the Ship...since the records were destroy both > here and in Germany, I cannot refer to them for information. Grrr) They > aren't making this easy to trace hehehe > > My Irish ancestors were easy once I found some leads. They are from > Rosecommon, Ireland. My great grandfather was pretty well known in Central > IL as a founder of a coal mine there. He was a contemporary of the UMW > president, and was from the same town in IL as he was, who is responsible > for us having an 8 hr work day. Even met a cousin that I didn't previously > know as a result. > > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:05 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Apparently Arizona has its own Mullahs > > > interesting. I had not heard of that kind of stuff being a problem > with any genealogical search but Irish, but that makes sense. > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You mean like how the Israeli's go after folks in Palestine? I can > remember >> being taught about that at least as far back as Junior High (6th - 8th > grade >> for me)...I can say for sure before that. I learned about the POW camps > in >> hih school as i was a WWII buff...but was also taught about them in a US >> history class in college. >> >> When I said bomb the crap out of them...I meant bomb the crap out of them >> and level the entire city kind of bomb the crap out of them. So I am not > in >> disagreement with you. We were taught about that as well and how they > went >> overboard with the bombing of Dresden and essentially messed up the > mission >> as they missed most of the primary targets while leverage the civilian >> areas..that happened to a lot of the big German cities that had train hubs >> or ports. The port of Bremen was another...I ran across that info while >> doing a genealogical search. My grandmother's family came here from > Poland >> in 1912 and their port of Departure was Bremen. All the port records were >> destroyed when the port was decimated in WWII. Apparently there was also > a >> fire that year in the Port of Baltimore, which destroyed the records thee > as >> well making that a huge roadblock in my ancestral search. >> >> Eric >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Kris Sisk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >Who has't heard about the detainment camps? What about Dresden...we >>> bombed >>> >the crap out of it...that was taught... >>> > >>> >On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Kris Sisk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> About half the people I know have never heard of the WW2 detainment > camps. >>> I didn't know about the German and Italian ones. >>> >>> As for Dresden, we didn't just bomb it. We destroyed the whole city core >>> and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in the city core to >>> destroy...a train yard. Meanwhile most of the legit military targets in > the >>> area were untouched. A modern day equivalent would be using a nuke to hit > a >>> single terrorist in the middle of a city and missing the training camp 30 >>> miles away. >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:318592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
