On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Who cares if they were predominantly Protestant and made assumptions?"
>
> Obviously Judah does or he wouldn't have posted a reply.

No, actually, I don't. They were welcome to believe whatever they
liked and make assumptions. Only those assumptions which were codified
into law are binding on me. What I do care about is people who now
make assumptions about the assumptions that may have been made by
those folks 250 years ago and try to use that rationalization to make
my life worse today.


>
> "First 6 Presidents, not a single one of them what you would identify as a
> main stream Protestant. No Methodists, no Lutherans, no Puritan/Baptists. I
> would suggest that your assumptions about the religious foundations of our
> country and misguided."
>
> But were they Christian?  I wasn't saying a country following protestant
> ideals.  It was Christian ideals.

You said that they were mostly Protestants. I showed that that belief
is incorrect, at least in the metric of the first set of Presidents.
Given their involvement in the crafting of the Constitution and early
direction of our government, that seems like a fairly reasonable set
to start with.

And your question about whether they were Christians or not, that
rather depends on your definition. The Episcopalians, I'll grant you.
Deists? No, not Christian. Unitarian Universalists? Really depends on
who ask. If you take a stance of a strict belief in a personal God of
the Bible who sent his only Son to earth and is joined by the Holy
Ghost and where that Son is the sole path to salvation..then no,
definitely not Christian. On the other hand, it can be seen as part of
the lineage of Christianity and often shares many of the same beliefs.
They most certainly weren't mainstream Christians though, so it would
depend on how you are defining the nebulous notion of "Christian
ideals".

Jud

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